[Catalyst] Re: Shoot out -- Catalyst / RoR / Other MVC apps --

[Matt S Trout]

On Fri, May 11, 2007 at 10:43:57AM +0200, David Morel wrote:
> 
> Le 10 mai 07 à 17:23, Tobias Kremer a écrit :
> 
> >>But, this does raise another question I have. There is plethora of  
> >>modules
> >>that are to help Perl be more OO like and stricter .... which is  
> >>cool, but
> >>are there any good de-facto standard modules that are used by the  
> >>majority of
> >>people wishing to be more OO compliant.
> >
> >That'd be Moose, I suppose - A complete modern object system for  
> >Perl 5:
> >
> >http://search.cpan.org/dist/Moose/
> >
> >Haven't really looked into it yet but I always wanted to know if there
> >are any plans on incorporating this into the Perl 5 core

Well, you'll find it's being standardised upon by a lot of people anyway
- Reaction is Moose from the ground up and I think now the immutable stuff's
landed (which cures most of the "Moose is slow" complaints) it's pretty
likely Catalyst and DBIx::Class will end up being Moose in the not too
distant future.
 
> RGARCIA tells me : "Moose doesn't need to be in the core. However,  
> bleadperl now has an "mro" pragma that permits to switch on a per- 
> class basis to the C3 MRO (and with more performance than with non- 
> core implementations)."

There's not really any reason for Moose to be in the core - Rafael's quite
sensible in his decisions about that and I think was quite shocked when I
chatted to him about some stuff at YAPC and wasn't suggesting any of it
went in core, just wondering how I could co-operate with core :)

Those of you who're using DBIx::Class should be on the dbix-class list and
would then already be aware of the mro pragma since it was written by our
very own (much respected*) Brandon Black to support the XS implementation of
Class::C3, which in turn massively reduces the load time hit of DBIx::Class.

* aka "completely insane man who works in areas I fear to tread" :)

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