[Catalyst] Kudos and thanks

Matt Pitts mpitts at a3its.com
Tue Mar 4 12:34:13 GMT 2008


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Danny Warren [mailto:danny at dannywarren.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2008 5:01 AM
> To: The elegant MVC web framework
> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Kudos and thanks
> 
> Ashley wrote:
> > I haven't installed Catalyst from scratch since... I don't know,
2006,
> I
> > think. I have reinstalled or installed parts of it many times on
many
> > platforms and that first full installation was the only one that
> didn't
> > cause me some kind of problem, sometimes the kind that takes a
couple
> > hours to work out. I wrote an early review of Cat back then, still
on
> > the frameworks homepage, that raved in part about how easy it was to
> > install. A couple months, and a couple of arguments on the list
about
> > growing installation issues, later I was starting to wish I could
> take
> > back some of the review.
> >
> > I just installed Catalyst::Runtime and Catalyst::Devel from scratch
> on a
> > brand new MacBook/Leopard without any modifications to the
> environment
> > (well, Xcode but that's required for development) or the CPAN or
> > anything and they both went in (while following prereqs) without a
> > single hitch.
> >
> > I really don't enjoy sysadmin stuff and I begrudge every lost
weekend
> > I've spent trying to recompile Apache with modperl, etc, etc. This
> was
> > just completely fantastic. Made me fall in love with Perl and Cat
and
> > recapture the same feeling I had when I first reviewed Catalyst more
> > than two years ago.
> >
> > Thanks again to everyone who has worked on making the various pieces
> and
> > making the various piece go.
> 
> Thank you for this.  I had to do a fresh deployment a few weeks ago
and
> had the exact same thought.
> 
> It also didn't occur to me until just now that the "help I am going in
> circles trying to install this thing" posts have all but disappeared
> from here.
> 
> Another thing that never gets a lot of due are the excellent dispatch
> scripts, which I am now completely spoiled by.  Every other framework
I
> have played with seems to have wildly different script behaviors, and
> seem to have one specific flavor (fcgi vs mod_perl vs dev server, etc)
> that works the best and is pushed over others.
> 
> Catalyst seems to behave how I expect it to no matter how I talk to
it,
> which frees me up to pick the method that works best for the place I
> need to put it.  At this point I only do a final smoke test with the
> actual deployment parameters before a milestone release, as I just
> trust
> that an instance of a dev server will behave just like an fcgi socket
> will by now.
> 
> So...thanks everybody!

Seconded!

I'm the red-headed Linux step-child in a primarily M$ web shop and every
time we 
have a dev meeting the M$ guys are bitching about how .NET doesn't work
like 
"this" or "that" or "here" or "there".

Catalyst "just works" for me regardless of where and I've only had one
bug that 
I couldn't duplicate in DEV over a year+ of dev/maintenance on my Cat
app - and
it was due to a library difference.

Only thing Catalyst could do better is make my morning coffee :)

v/r

-matt pitts



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