[Catalyst] Unable to output anything in Root.pm -> 'auto'

[Craig Chant]

Hi Luka,

Perhaps I miss-read the info on http://search.cpan.org/~janus/Catalyst-Authentication-Store-DBI-0.01/lib/Catalyst/Authentication/Store/DBI.pm

But from what I can see it expects you to map specific fields in a table as well as have a user role table with specific data mapping?

[quote] __PACKAGE__->config->{'authentication'} = {
    'default_realm' => 'default',
    'realms' => {
      'default' => {
        'credential' => {
          'class'               => 'Password',
          'password_field'      => 'password',
          'password_type'       => 'hashed',
          'password_hash_type'  => 'SHA-1',
        },
        'store' => {
          'class'              => 'DBI',
          'user_table'         => 'login',
          'user_key'           => 'id',
          'user_name'          => 'name',
          'role_table'         => 'authority',
          'role_key'           => 'id',
          'role_name'          => 'name',
          'user_role_table'    => 'competence',
          'user_role_user_key' => 'login',
          'user_role_role_key' => 'authority',
        },
      },
    },
  };[/quote]

Have I read the above incorrectly?

I have a non-normalised DB , with an application that functions in a particular way, I deal with user roles and other such stuff in my own way and I cannot refactor to use catalyst without ensuring all sections of the system function the same along with the back end admin system, I can't rewrite both parts at the same time, this is a live app in production that works currently, I'm simply trying to learn Catalyst & MVC cuteness, not start from scratch.

>From what I can see using any of those authentication modules expects certain data I don't have or use nor want.

Please correct  me if I'm reading the CPAN documentation incorrectly.

I want to refactor my app to be MVC using Catalyst without being forced to do any other than MVC cuteness and work the way I want to with the a database that already exists, I got the feeling Catalyst allows this unlike ROR or other MVC frameworks.

Again, have I got this wrong?

If to use Catalyst I have to have a normalised DB, use specific modules with data in a particular format, then I will just refactor our systems myself using my own modules and such, best to find this out now before I spend any more time on something that isn't suitable.

Thanks,

Craig.


-----Original Message-----
From: Lukas Thiemeier [mailto:spamcatcher at thiemeier.net]
Sent: 29 October 2012 16:42
To: catalyst at lists.scsys.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Unable to output anything in Root.pm -> 'auto'


Hey Craig,

I got it. You want to store your credentials in a database, but you don't want to use DBIx::Class?

What about Catalyst::Authentication::Storage::DBI?

If this doesn't help, you might me right. Maybe you have to write your own authentication module. In that case, consider making it a Catalyst::Authentication::Store module, and publish it on cpan. It might be useful for others, too...

By the way: Catalyst::Model::DBI is a ORM-less, raw DBI model for catalyst. So "... whenever I look at how it implements anything to do with DB access, it forces ORM upon you ..." is not correct. There are very few things which are really forced by catalyst. Using DBIx::Class is just considered "good practice". A lot of people use it, thats why it is used in most tutorials and examples.

Lukas



On 10/29/2012 05:09 PM, Craig Chant wrote:
> Yes, but I need to keep a backed DB up-to-date with current logins, where in the system they are etc...
>
> So local server disk won't help in this situation.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denny [mailto:2012 at denny.me]
> Sent: 29 October 2012 15:50
> To: The elegant MVC web framework
> Subject: RE: [Catalyst] Unable to output anything in Root.pm -> 'auto'
>
> On Mon, 2012-10-29 at 15:43 +0000, Craig Chant wrote:
>> "By the way, what do you need the session-id for? Catalyst handles sessions in a transparent way"
>>
>> To authenticate users, I don't want to store authentication in the hash and it seems the only other way to do this is via ORM, which I don't want to use either.
>>
>> I find catalyst whenever I look at how it implements anything to do with DB access, it forces ORM upon you, so I need to write my own authentication code don't I ?
>
> I'm pretty sure the default storage for session stuff is disk-based.
>
>
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