[Catalyst] Rackspace Ubuntu 14.04

[Robert Brown]

Maybe I'm benefiting from a platform of only 40 servers, tho I'm not 
sure what our limits would be.

For us they're simple (virtual) web servers.

If one plays up, drop it, rebuild, and away we go, I kinda got that from 
Yahoo!  Don't worry about what went wrong, just rebuild and carry on.

This is all a brand new (2 years old) Catalyst env, so yes, I've had 
some benefits.

Our ~/perl5 is in svn too, so live and dev boxes should always carry the 
same code.

Would you deploy anything without ensuring the perl5 is also fully 
up-to-date first?  That's our first check with our own deployment script?

We're only a team of 3, so all dev's are also dev-ops so to speak.






On 13/05/15 22:26, James Leu wrote:
> Excellent idea Robert.  I've been doing it this way
> for so long, it would be nice to take fresh view at
> how others are doing it.
>
>
> For us RPM add two benifits:
> - It allows us to validate that files have not changed from
> the originial reployed version.
>
> - I can give our Ops team a RPM and have them schedule/handle
> deployment
>
> I can see doing something similar in a docker environment
> but I have had not had time to vett that idea.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 10:08:17PM +0100, Robert Brown wrote:
>> One of my previous employers deployed with RPMs.
>>
>> And I never understood why.
>>
>> It's a good question for the community here, what's your
>> deployment strategy, and why is it so?
>>
>> What would you change if you're not the decision -maker.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 13/05/15 21:58, James Leu wrote:
>>> Just to add to Robert's idea.
>>>
>>> We use perlbrew and Carton for our catalyst environments
>>> We deploy via RPMs, but each RPM contains a perlprew environment
>>> and a local lib dir managed by Carton.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 06:26:40PM +0100, Robert Brown wrote:
>>>> Not to answer your actual question, but...
>>>>
>>>> Have you also thought using Perlbrew http://perlbrew.pl
>>>>
>>>> As regular user, you can install any version of Perl locally (to
>>>> your home dir), plus all the modules via cpanm, and keep
>>>> everything self-contained for a particular user.
>>>>
>>>> It's made our deployments a breeze, rather than dealing with the
>>>> system-wide perl, etc.
>>>>
>>>> (There's also local::lib tho I've not delved into that myself).
>>>>
>>>> Hope it helps a little.
>>>>
>>>> Rob
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 13/05/15 18:16, Duncan Garland wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I've just spun up a Rackspace server with Ubuntu 14.04 and
>>>>> tried to install Catalyst from CPAN.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the print out means what it seems to mean, then Catalyst
>>>>> will no longer install cleanly from CPAN on any version prior
>>>>> to 5.20.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's saying that there is a dependency on Tie::StdHash and
>>>>> that Tie::StdHash won't install without force because the
>>>>> latest version of the module is part of perl-5.20.2.
>>>>>
>>>>> It won't effect me because I'll just force it or download an
>>>>> older version of the module.
>>>>>
>>>>> All the same, it seems a bit poor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it deliberate?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Duncan
>>>>>
>>>>>
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