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<font size=3>At 03:07 PM 11/30/2006, Sebastian Riedel wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Tobias Kremer wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">Today I was in a meeting with
one of Germany's top
twenty</font></blockquote></blockquote>[snip]<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>We really have to
start learning from the Ruby folks,<br>
take a look at these two books, it's pure marketing genius.<br><br>
From Java To Ruby: Things Every Manager Should Know
(<a href="http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_j2r/index.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_j2r/index.html</a>)<br>
Rails For Java Developers
(<a href="http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_r4j/index.html" eudora="autourl">
http://www.pragmaticprogrammer.com/titles/fr_r4j/index.html</a>)<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">I hate to say this, but Perl is
really lacking some sort of
marketing.</font></blockquote></blockquote>[snip]<br><br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite=""><font size=3>I completely agree,
but you don't get (good) marketing for free,<br>
a company or The Perl Foundation would have to invest money in
it.<br><br>
Take a look at Java, PHP and Ruby, all the marketing initiatives can be
traced back to a few smart companies.<br><br>
(Please take a few minutes and think about it before flaming me,
thanks)</blockquote><br>
Breaking in here, but something SRI said about "a few smart
companies"....<br><br>
A couple months ago I read several articles about the phenomenon of
"technology churn". Basically the authors had identified
a set of companies, consultants, and evangelists (trainers for hire) who
kept reappearing over the years, but each time selling "the latest
thing". <br><br>
These people were making money off of 'selling' the latest
fad/technology/methodology/you-name-it . It's not that they were
necessarily cynical - they may have genuinely believed "this time's
for real!" But after 'selling' two, three or more 'answers'
over the years you would think they would have been ashamed?<br><br>
What I'm pointing to is that people can profit from the sheer 'newness'
of a technology/methodology. <br><br>
Enthusiasm is very hard to defeat. And it is rather hard to get
people enthusiastic about something as old as Perl. Especially as
people don't know anything 'new' about Perl.<br><br>
Anyway, it is a factor somewhat apart from the others like FUD and
management bias. Heck, 'newness' even seems to be helping .Net and
C# work against Java. It's newer, so it must be better!<br><br>
So I guess the question I'd like y'all to consider (that I have no answer
for):<br>
How does one make Perl + Catalyst 'new' and 'sexy' enough to
generate enthusiasm? <br><br>
I expect that there will simply always be a large number of people who
will read "Catalyst Framework in Perl" as "grandmother's
new shoes" :-(<br><br>
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-- <br>
I'm a pessimist about probabilities; I'm an optimist about
possibilities.<br>
Lewis Mumford (1895-1990) <br>
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