So as I said - I contacted O'Reilly to request info/submit interest in a Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices. I've been in contact with a chap called Andy Oram who seems to be O'Reilly's Perl Guy (FWIW he also seems a nice, but very busy, guy). I was waiting for him to give me the nod before posting the following thread to the mailing list...<br>
<br><br>----<br><br><br>I just had a moment to reply. You can post my reply to the mailing
list--I do appreciate that you asked first. Results of my asking around
are discouraging. I will try to do some more research next week, but
this is a busy time for me. (I have only 6 days at home during the
whole month of April.)<br>
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Andy<br></font><br>
----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Ian Sillitoe" <<a href="mailto:ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com">ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com</a>><br>
To: "Andy Oram" <<a href="mailto:andyo@oreilly.com">andyo@oreilly.com</a>><br>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:28:34 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York<br>
Subject: Re: Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices<br>
<br>
Andy,<br>
<br>
Thanks for getting back to me. It would obviously be nice to see<br>
O'Reilly give Catalyst the full "Best Practices" treatment, however as<br>
you say, a more simple "Catalyst Cookbook/Hacks" book of code snippets<br>
would presumably be much easier to produce/edit and therefore more<br>
likely to happen. The Catalyst POD docs are already pretty good and<br>
will undoubtably continue to improve. However most Catalyst<br>
developers, i.e. the people that would actually fork out money (or get<br>
their employers to fork out money) to buy the book, would probably be<br>
very happy just to get the interesting snippets in lots of different<br>
case scenarios.<br>
<br>
Also, I was going to post the reply you gave on the Catalyst mailing<br>
list - but it feels a bit rude without at least asking you first - any<br>
objections?<br>
<br>
Lots of people would be really interested in any further developements<br>
so if you had a chance to update me when you hear anything, I would be<br>
really grateful.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Ian<br>
<br>
<br>
---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
From: Andy Oram <<a href="mailto:andyo@oreilly.com">andyo@oreilly.com</a>><br>
Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:46 PM<br>
Subject: Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices<br>
To: <a href="mailto:ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com">ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I just had a moment to reply to your request for a Catalyst Cookbook,<br>
which was forwarded to me because I edit most of our Perl books now.<br>
<br>
I appreciate your contacting us, and I'll ask the Stonehenge trainers<br>
as well as the many O'Reilly employees who are heavily involved in<br>
Perl development. Unfortunately, it's very hard to make money on books<br>
about Web frameworks. Even the Rails market, which used to be very<br>
good, is weakening.<br>
<br>
Basically, the success of the open source movement makes book<br>
publishing difficult. There are lots of competing frameworks and<br>
languages. There are core groups of excited users for each one, but<br>
rarely do they add up to a market for a book.<br>
<br>
But we'll see what our Perl contacts say. The idea of bypassing the<br>
tutorial and writing a cookbook is appealing.<br>
<br>
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</div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ian Sillitoe <<a href="mailto:ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com">ian.sillitoe@googlemail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="Ih2E3d">On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Pierre Moret <pierre@sw2.ch> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
Jon wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
[...] Or like others have suggested, a cookbook with a large variety of useful examples showing "best practices" for different situations. </blockquote>
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That's exactly what I would like to see. I got the first book (thanks!) and would buy such a cookbook immediately.<br>
</blockquote></div><div><br>Seconded... and, like one of the previous posters, I've also added my tuppence to (proposals@) O'Reilly (.com) suggesting they get on the case.<br><br></div></div>
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