<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>O HAI!</div><div><br></div>The debian-perl team has built packages for Catalyst to allow debian users easy installation and quality assurance. The addition of the proposed installation code in Catalyst would break current apps and would most likely be removed by debian / ubuntu because it fundamentally interferes with a user's stated wishes. When a user calls "aptitude install catalyst" they explicitly want catalyst installed and not a message saying "are you sure you want to install catalyst?"<br><br>Personally, I greatly prefer the UNIX philosophy of "silence equals success," and would not welcome any notification around installation.<br><br>Regards,<br><br>Jeremiah<br><br>On Jul 28, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Marcus Ramberg wrote:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">I see catalyst apps being complete CPAN packages as a real advantage.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Taking away the make install option seems very limiting, and<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">destructive for no good purpose at all. For instance, my previous<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">employer uses this functionality to build debian packages of all of<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">their apps.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">With regards<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Marcus Ramberg<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:46 AM, Devin Austin<<a href="mailto:devin.austin@gmail.com">devin.austin@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Hi gang,<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">There's been some discord as to whether or not Catalyst applications<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">should/should not have the option of make install.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Personally, I'm not really partial either way. Especially with the advent<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">of tools like Dist::Zilla that allow you to keep track of the modules you<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">need and build a distribution to release.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Either way, I think it's time we come to a consensus. Multiple times there<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">have been emails like this asking about it, so let's squash it once and for<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">all and get an answer.<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">-dhoss<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">--<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite">Devin Austin<br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.codedright.net/">http://www.codedright.net</a><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><a href="http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?326568/hosting.html">http://www.dreamhost.com/r.cgi?326568/hosting.html</a> - Host with DreamHost!<br></blockquote></blockquote><br></body></html>