<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I suppose my issues were not with HFH itself but rather the DBIC interface.</div><div><br></div><div>I had some meh experience with it when I was writing a demo CRUD app (project was eventually dropped for external reasons).</div><div>It was fine as far as the basic stuff went, but when I tried to extend it to some complicated forms across DBIC relationships (that did not behave as HFH expected), I ended up having to hack on </div><div>DBIx::Class::ResultSet::RecursiveUpdate. (This was not a bug per se, but more of an edge case)</div><div><br></div><div>That was not particularly fun. On the other hand if I used FormFu I would have had to essentially write the (recursive) update logic myself anyway.</div><div>I checked my notes on this (and it's possible that issued have been fixed since then, this dates from 6/15/2010).</div><div><br></div><div>Without too much gory detail:</div><div><br></div><div>given:</div><div>table colleague has_many colleague_keywords belongs_to keywords</div><div>so colleague has_many keywords</div><div><br></div><div>* if I set the forms up with a m2m pseudorel (like docs suggest) then when I deleted a keyword from the Form it would instead UPDATE it setting all columns to NULL. </div><div>* If I changed the kw (attempted UPDATE) to a new keyword that didn't exist, then it UPDATES the keyword record, instead of deleting the linking table record and creating a new keyword record. It also deletes all the linking table entries and recreates them ... which I suppose technically works (but annoys my DBA)</div><div>* If I had a colleague and tried to add a keyword (that was already linked to another colleague) it would fail. Because the form didn't know the primary key of the keyword.</div><div>* If I added a brand new keyword to a colleague it would work but did strange things with the linking table.</div><div><br></div><div>Probably the schema could have been refactored to work with HFH, but that was not really an option. There also could have been bugs in my forms, although I was working with GShank a little on this.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ben</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Nov 30, 2010, at 7:34 AM, will trillich wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Anybody else *dissing* FormHandler? We've started developing based on FormHandler lately and haven't had troubles... yet?<div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 5:26 AM, Shlomi Fish <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shlomif@iglu.org.il">shlomif@iglu.org.il</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="im">I can recommend *against* HTML-FormHandler.</div>
<br>
For my day job's Perl and Catalyst project, we initially decided to go with<br>
HTML-FormHandler, only to discover it was buggy, quirky and had severe memory<br>
leaks. We ended up doing many workarounds and recently made a transition from<br>
it to HTML-FormFu, which while by no means perfect, is much saner.<br>
<br>
My co-worker "nothingmuch" who has done many of the workarounds can provide<br>
further comments on it. Recently I had to over-ride a role in the login form<br>
(for which we need to use HTML-FormHandler due to CatalystX::SimpleLogin) that<br>
will accept an empty string as the 'action=""' attribute because it only<br>
placed true values of the attribute there, which ruled out empty strings. But<br>
I recall many other fun hours debugging HTML-FormHandler.<br>
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Stay away if you can.<br>
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Regards,<br>
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Shlomi Fish<br>
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