<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div><span>Hi Duncan,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div dir="ltr"><span>wow thats a lot of errors... this is system Perl now or a local lib, I got lost a bit in the thread above.</span></div> <br><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:47 AM, Duncan Garland <duncan.garland@motortrak.com> wrote:<br> </font> </div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv4229503436"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Hi John,<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>I didn't save all the terminal output, but here's what I have got from the second attempt.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Regards<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>Duncan<br clear="none"><div><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div></div></div><div class="yiv4229503436gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv4229503436gmail_quote">On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:30 PM, John Napiorkowski <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jjn1056@yahoo.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jjn1056@yahoo.com">jjn1056@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv4229503436gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv4229503436yqt8889207566" id="yiv4229503436yqt83270"><div><div style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir="ltr"><span>I'd love to see a full install attempt. I was getting tests for Perl down to 5.8.8 before we release so I am not aware of a hard dependency on </span><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;">Tie::StdHash.</span></div><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family:'Helvetica Neue', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif;font-size:13px;"><br clear="none"></span></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2">However I don't use cpanplus, and I write my own <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://makefile.pl/">makefile.pl</a>, not the one that Catalyst::Devel writes. Its possible that something is going on there. If someone can reproduce and send me an install trace I will review.</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2">The intention for Catalyst is to run on the oldest Perl possible. However I am finding particularly with the unicode stuff that getting a stable setup lower than 5.14 is a bit hard. I do use 5.10.1 at work and we have it running there without trouble FWIW</font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2"><br clear="none"></font></div><div dir="ltr"><font face="Helvetica Neue, Segoe UI, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif" size="2">John</font></div> <div dir="ltr"><span> </span></div><br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:23 PM, Robert Brown <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rob@intelcompute.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rob@intelcompute.com">rob@intelcompute.com</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </font> </div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div><div><div>
Interesting, we don't use local::lib, just perlbrew, both dev and
production, and keep the whole perlbrew dir in svn, works great.<br clear="none">
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Will let the catalyst devs answer the actual/original question...<br clear="none">
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<div><div>On 13/05/15 19:01, Duncan Garland
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We don't use perlbrew on production, but I've used it in
other areas without a problem. As far as I know it's
very highly regarded.<br clear="none">
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I've used local::lib successfully for development work ie
Temporarily pointing to some different modules.<br clear="none">
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I spent quite a lot of time at the beginning of this year
trying to set it up so that we could use it seriously. I
wanted to be able to do a twice yearly update from CPAN of
all our modules into a seperate directory structure so that
it would be easy to revert if the updated tree turned out to
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local::lib plays nicely with cpan but not with cpanplus. The
default way for a Catalyst app to maintain it's dependencies
is to maintain Makefile.PL. When you run that it uses
cpanplus. I struggled with it for quite a while and gave up.<br clear="none">
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<div>On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Robert
Brown <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:rob@intelcompute.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:rob@intelcompute.com">rob@intelcompute.com</a>></span>
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<div> Not to answer your
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Have you also thought using Perlbrew <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://perlbrew.pl/">http://perlbrew.pl</a><br clear="none">
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As regular user, you can install any version of Perl
locally (to your home dir), plus all the modules via
cpanm, and keep everything self-contained for a particular
user.<br clear="none">
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It's made our deployments a breeze, rather than dealing
with the system-wide perl, etc.<br clear="none">
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(There's also local::lib tho I've not delved into that
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Hope it helps a little.<br clear="none">
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I've just spun up a Rackspace server with
Ubuntu 14.04 and tried to install Catalyst
from CPAN.<br clear="none">
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If the print out means what it seems to
mean, then Catalyst will no longer install
cleanly from CPAN on any version prior to
5.20.<br clear="none">
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<div>It's saying that there is a dependency on
Tie::StdHash and that Tie::StdHash won't
install without force because the latest
version of the module is part of
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It won't effect me because I'll just force it
or download an older version of the module.<br clear="none">
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All the same, it seems a bit poor.<br clear="none">
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Is it deliberate?<br clear="none">
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