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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run 
the programs using </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>perl program.pl &gt; something.log 2&gt;&amp;1 
&amp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>then I can use the command exit to close the SSH 
console but the program continues to run.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but 
in last years I didn't need it anymore.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't 
work when using a real bash console directly?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>--Octavian<BR></DIV>
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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com href="mailto:lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com">Len 
  Jaffe</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=kieren@diment.org 
  href="mailto:kieren@diment.org">kieren@diment.org</A> ; <A 
  title=catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk href="mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk">The 
  elegant MVC web framework</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 26, 2015 5:13 
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r 
  working when commandline closed...?</DIV>
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  <DIV dir=ltr>&amp; just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose 
  job control.
  <DIV>If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session 
  running, and reattach to the session later.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>It is well work looking into.</DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=gmail_extra><BR>
  <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <SPAN 
  dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:diment@gmail.com" 
  target=_blank>diment@gmail.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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    <DIV dir=ltr>Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;).&nbsp; I use it to 
    keep long running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having 
    an editor in the right place from where I last left off.&nbsp; All round a 
    primo useful tool.&nbsp; Also handy for persistent IRC connections 
    etc.<BR></DIV>
    <DIV class=HOEnZb>
    <DIV class=h5>
    <DIV class=gmail_extra><BR>
    <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <SPAN 
    dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk" 
    target=_blank>catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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      <DIV><FONT size=2>A further search online,</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2>throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app 
      you want to run in the background&nbsp;needs input now and 
      again.</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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        <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A 
        title=catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk 
        href="mailto:catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk" target=_blank>Andrew</A> 
        </DIV>
        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
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        href="mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk" target=_blank>The elegant MVC 
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        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, October 24, 2015 
        5:06 AM</DIV>
        <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack 
        -r working when commandline closed...?</DIV>
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        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Why is it better to use these over using an 
        "&amp;"....?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to 
        their usefulness all round?</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Yours,</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2>Andrew.</FONT></DIV>
        <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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          <DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A 
          title=diment@gmail.com href="mailto:diment@gmail.com" 
          target=_blank>Kieren Diment</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
          title=catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk 
          href="mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk" target=_blank>The elegant MVC 
          web framework</A> </DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, October 23, 2015 
          10:48 PM</DIV>
          <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Catalyst] Keep 
          Plack -r working when commandline closed...?</DIV>
          <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR></DIV>
          <DIV dir=ltr>Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, 
          highly recommended.<BR></DIV>
          <DIV class=gmail_extra><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
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          <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe 
          <SPAN dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com" 
          target=_blank>lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com</A>&gt;</SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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            <DIV dir=ltr>I'd still consider using screen or tmux...</DIV>
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            <DIV><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><FONT 
            size=2></FONT><FONT size=2></FONT><BR>
            <DIV class=gmail_quote>On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew <SPAN 
            dir=ltr>&lt;<A href="mailto:catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk" 
            target=_blank>catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk</A>&gt;</SPAN> 
            wrote:<BR>
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            style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Turns 
              out it's super easy to run it in the background, =).<BR><BR>You 
              just add "&amp;" to the end of the commandline, =D.<BR><BR>^_^ Am 
              learning these little server tricks, ;-).<BR><BR>[Tweeted 
              Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to 
              promptly<BR>respond, with this little gem, =D. 
              Yay!]<BR><BR>Yours,<BR>Andrew.<BR><SPAN><BR><BR>----- Original 
              Message -----<BR>From: "Trevor Leffler" &lt;<A 
              href="mailto:tleffler@uw.edu" 
              target=_blank>tleffler@uw.edu</A>&gt;<BR>To: "The elegant MVC web 
              framework" &lt;<A href="mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk" 
              target=_blank>catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk</A>&gt;<BR>Sent: Friday, 
              October 23, 2015 4:28 PM<BR>Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r 
              working when commandline closed...?<BR><BR><BR></SPAN>
              <DIV>
              <DIV>What about wrapping your shell session with screen?<BR><BR>$ 
              man screen<BR><BR>--Trevor<BR><BR>On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew 
              wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; I've ended up using Plackup to start the 
              catalyst app's psgi script (still<BR>&gt; via fast cgi),<BR>&gt; 
              and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and 
              reload the<BR>&gt; server when changes are 
              detected.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; It does this fine, as long as my 
              commandline terminal is still open.<BR>&gt; The moment I close it, 
              the server continues to run, yet any watching for<BR>&gt; changes, 
              killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can 
              tell).<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Is there any way to get Plack's scripts 
              that watch and reload (i.e.<BR>&gt; Restarter.pm, etc), to 
              continue to run after I close OSX's terminal window<BR>/<BR>&gt; 
              end the SSH session?<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Many thanks for any 
              insights offered,<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Yours,<BR>&gt; 
              Andrew.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; 
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