<div dir="ltr">If all you want is to start a process and leave, then huponexit and/or nohup+background are fine.<div>If you want to start a process (event in the foreground) and leave it running while you detatch, and come back later to the same session, then tmux is the way to go.</div><div><br></div><div>You can learn enough tmux to be dangerous in ten minutes. The only features of ti that i use are window splitting, session detach, and session attach. </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Kieren Diment <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diment@gmail.com" target="_blank">diment@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I would say having HUPONEXIT false would be the more exotic feature set in this case. tmux is actually a very good low rent low traffic short lifespan application deployment strategy ;).<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 6:21 PM, Octavian Rasnita <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orasnita@gmail.com" target="_blank">orasnita@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set
to false we can simply run processes in background appending & at the end of
the command line.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need
other features offered by them.</font></div><span><font color="#888888">
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">--Octavian<br></font></div>
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<div style="BACKGROUND:#e4e4e4;FONT:10pt arial"><b>From:</b>
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</span><div><div><div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37
PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r
working when commandline closed...?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div dir="ltr"><br>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:orasnita@gmail.com" target="_blank">orasnita@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and
run the programs using </font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">perl <a href="http://program.pl" target="_blank">program.pl</a> > something.log 2>&1
&</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">then I can use the command exit to close the
SSH console but the program continues to run.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I remember that in past I needed to use nohup,
but in last years I didn't need it anymore.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Is the SSH connection a special case but it
doesn't work when using a real bash console
directly?</font></div></div></blockquote>
<div><br></div>
<div>Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell:</div>
<div><a href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it</a></div>
<div><br></div>
<div>/L</div>
<div> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>To:</b> <a title="kieren@diment.org" href="mailto:kieren@diment.org" target="_blank">kieren@diment.org</a> ; <a title="catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk" href="mailto:catalyst@lists.scsys.co.uk" target="_blank">The elegant MVC web
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Sent:</b> Monday,
October 26, 2015 5:13 AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?</div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2"></font><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">& just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you
lose job control.
<div>If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session
running, and reattach to the session later. </div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is well work looking into.</div></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:diment@gmail.com" target="_blank">diment@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use
it to keep long running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as
for having an editor in the right place from where I last left
off. All round a primo useful tool. Also handy for
persistent IRC connections etc.<br></div>
<div>
<div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk" target="_blank">catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><font size="2">A further search online,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the
app you want to run in the background needs input now and
again.</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Sent:</b>
Saturday, October 24, 2015 5:06 AM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b>
Re: [Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Why is it better to use these over using an
"&"....?</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Or are you simply recommending them generally, due
to their usefulness all round?</font></div>
<div><font size="2"></font> </div>
<div><font size="2">Yours,</font></div>
<div><font size="2">Andrew.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Sent:</b>
Friday, October 23, 2015 10:48 PM</div>
<div style="FONT:10pt arial;font-stretch:normal"><b>Subject:</b> Re:
[Catalyst] Keep Plack -r working when commandline closed...?</div>
<div><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><br></div>
<div dir="ltr">Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than
screen, highly recommended.<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com" target="_blank">lenjaffe@jaffesystems.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">
<div dir="ltr">I'd still consider using screen or tmux...</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div>
<div><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><font size="2"></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Andrew
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk" target="_blank">catalystgroup@unitedgames.co.uk</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT:1ex;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;BORDER-LEFT:rgb(204,204,204) 1px solid">Turns
out it's super easy to run it in the background,
=).<br><br>You just add "&" to the end of the commandline,
=D.<br><br>^_^ Am learning these little server tricks,
;-).<br><br>[Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was
kind enough to promptly<br>respond, with this little gem, =D.
Yay!]<br><br>Yours,<br>Andrew.<br><span><br><br>----- Original
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Friday, October 23, 2015 4:28 PM<br>Subject: Re: [Catalyst]
Keep Plack -r working when commandline
closed...?<br><br><br></span>
<div>
<div>What about wrapping your shell session with
screen?<br><br>$ man screen<br><br>--Trevor<br><br>On
10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote:<br>><br>> I've ended
up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script
(still<br>> via fast cgi),<br>> and I'm using -r to
indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the<br>>
server when changes are detected.<br>><br>> It does this
fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still
open.<br>> The moment I close it, the server continues to
run, yet any watching for<br>> changes, killing, and
restarting no longer happens (as far as I can
tell).<br>><br>> Is there any way to get Plack's scripts
that watch and reload (i.e.<br>> Restarter.pm, etc), to
continue to run after I close OSX's terminal
window<br>/<br>> end the SSH
session?<br>><br>><br>> Many thanks for any insights
offered,<br>><br>> Yours,<br>>
Andrew.<br>><br>><br>>
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