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I'm wondering why you not just use an init script or systemd service unit to start/stop/restart your app?<br>
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Best regards, Alex<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2015-10-27 15:55, Len Jaffe wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">If all you want is to start a process and leave, then huponexit and/or nohup+background are fine.
<div>If you want to start a process (event in the foreground) and leave it running while you detatch, and come back later to the same session, then tmux is the way to go.</div>
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<div>You can learn enough tmux to be dangerous in ten minutes. The only features of ti that i use are window splitting, session detach, and session attach. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 27, 2015 at 5:25 AM, Kieren Diment <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">I would say having HUPONEXIT false would be the more exotic feature set in this case. tmux is actually a very good low rent low traffic short lifespan application deployment strategy ;).<br>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Thanks. The conclusion is that if huponexit is set to false we can simply run processes in background appending & at the end of the command line.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">So we don't need tmux nor screen unless we need other features offered by them.</font></div>
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<div style="FONT:10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, October 26, 2015 11:37 PM</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Octavian Rasnita <span dir="ltr">
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">When I connect to Linux servers using SSH and run the programs using
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">then I can use the command exit to close the SSH console but the program continues to run.</font></div>
<div><font face="Arial" size="2">I remember that in past I needed to use nohup, but in last years I didn't need it anymore.</font></div>
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<div><font face="Arial" size="2">Is the SSH connection a special case but it doesn't work when using a real bash console directly?</font></div>
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<div>Sounds like the huponexit is not set in your shell:</div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it" target="_blank">http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21294283/when-did-hup-stop-getting-sent-and-what-can-i-do-about-it</a></div>
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<div dir="ltr">& just backgrounds a job. If you close the terminal, you lose job control.
<div>If you use tmux, you can close the terminal, but leave the session running, and reattach to the session later. </div>
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<div>It is well work looking into.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 1:29 AM, Kieren Diment <span dir="ltr">
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<div dir="ltr">Tmux is the poor man's deployment pathway ;). I use it to keep long running jobs going between logins a lot too, as well as for having an editor in the right place from where I last left off. All round a primo useful tool. Also handy for persistent
IRC connections etc.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 3:24 PM, Andrew <span dir="ltr">
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<div><font size="2">throws up that screen and tmux can be useful if the app you want to run in the background needs input now and again.</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Why is it better to use these over using an "&"....?</font></div>
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<div><font size="2">Or are you simply recommending them generally, due to their usefulness all round?</font></div>
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<div dir="ltr">Tmux is generally newer and easier to use than screen, highly recommended.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 7:41 AM, Len Jaffe <span dir="ltr">
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Turns out it's super easy to run it in the background, =).<br>
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You just add "&" to the end of the commandline, =D.<br>
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^_^ Am learning these little server tricks, ;-).<br>
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[Tweeted Tatsuhiko Miyagawa of Plack fame, who was kind enough to promptly<br>
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Yours,<br>
Andrew.<br>
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<div>What about wrapping your shell session with screen?<br>
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$ man screen<br>
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On 10/23/2015 08:21 AM, Andrew wrote:<br>
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> I've ended up using Plackup to start the catalyst app's psgi script (still<br>
> via fast cgi),<br>
> and I'm using -r to indicate it should watch for changes, and reload the<br>
> server when changes are detected.<br>
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> It does this fine, as long as my commandline terminal is still open.<br>
> The moment I close it, the server continues to run, yet any watching for<br>
> changes, killing, and restarting no longer happens (as far as I can tell).<br>
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> Is there any way to get Plack's scripts that watch and reload (i.e.<br>
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