[Dbix-class] Advices needed on creating multilingual application

Jonas Alves jonas.alves at gmail.com
Tue Sep 25 00:42:29 GMT 2007


On 23/09/2007, Matt S Trout <dbix-class at trout.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sun, Sep 23, 2007 at 08:00:06PM +0100, Jonas Alves wrote:
> > On 23/09/2007, Matt S Trout <dbix-class at trout.me.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 07:19:52AM +0300, mbit at ukr.net wrote:
> > > > Matt S Trout(dbix-class at trout.me.uk)@Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 06:14:08PM
> > > +0100:
> > > > > On Wed, Sep 19, 2007 at 11:50:26AM +0300, mbit at ukr.net wrote:
> > > > > > Hello.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need an advice on writing multilangual web-application.
> Question
> > > is not
> > > > > > about i18n or localization, that's was described here many times
> and
> > > i got it
> > > > > > worked pretty easy :) The thing is in organizing database
> storage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Let's assume an easy application. We have a blog. But there are
> > > three versions
> > > > > > int three languages: en, de and ru for example. But when we
> don't
> > > have a
> > > > > > translation for the en part, we show original part. This way
> first
> > > we add
> > > > > > original post in de, and then if we translate that part we add
> > > translation. And
> > > > > > when a user views en version of the site he sees translated
> part.
> > > Otherwize he
> > > > > > sees de version. This way in all three languages we have
> complete
> > > website, just
> > > > > > not everything is always translated, but we know what changed
> and
> > > was added in
> > > > > > all languages.
> > > > >
> > > > > Don't hit the database for every string.
> > > > >
> > > > > Use Catalyst::Plugin::I18N and generate out to string dictionaries
> /
> > > .po files.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then you can make the DB storage as inefficient as you like :)
> > > >
> > > > Didn't get your humor here ;-)
> > > >
> > > > But please answer a question: can we somehow create relationship
> where
> > > we can
> > > > provide args in runtime, so this is possible:
> > >
> > > Yes.
> > >
> > > But like I say, that's not the approach I'd use since you'll
> bottleneck
> > > horribly on the DB that way.
> > >
> > > Generate out to .po files and stop worrying about abusing SQL.
> >
> >
> > Yes, that's good for the text on the templates or for the form
> validation
> > errors.
> > But if you have a lot of articles inserted with a CMS that is not the
> way to
> > go.
>
> Sure. But then you're probably going to want a materialized view or
> something.
>
> Or to generate out a directory tree of article data, which is what most
> CMSes
> seem to do.
>
> Killing your database is not generally a good plan for scaling :)


Yes, I like that aproach. ;)

-- =

Jonas
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