[Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

[Aaron Trevena]

On 18 October 2016 at 18:34, Matt S Trout <mst at shadowcat.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 01:24:01PM -0400, Ashley Pond V wrote:
>> This starts to feel like a corporate process that will be tuned out by
>> what little community participates. Will more than two or three users
>> engage with this? Will they follow the code closely enough to have a
>> valid opinion?
>
> This was as little ceremony as I could add around a list-as-fifth-slot and
> still have something that seemed like it would work.
>
> And ... I dunno. We used to have some pretty wide ranging discussions in the
> Olde Days, I'm hoping we can get back to that again.

works for me.

> Even if what we end up with is the list mostly just nodding through what
> the core team decides, this system at least forces the core team to propose
> and decide in public, so it still seems like a net win over "trust the core
> team" alone.

Yup.

>> As far as stability goes, I'd like to see—actually, I'd like to insist
>> upon but I'm not a core dev so don't have the right—a performance
>> benchmark in the dist of the last few releases so it's clear when and
>> what code causes a change. DBIC won some extremely welcome performance
>> gains under RIBASUSHI and I don’t think it would be reasonable to ever
>> give them up for the sake of new development.
>
> I'd love to see a decent set of benchmarks written and become a standard
> thing to run before discussing a branch merge.
>
> I would not like to commit to "ever" because a lot of the optimisation has
> involved manual inlining and unrolling of recursion, and at some point we
> may hit a situation where in order to make it possible to add a feature
> outside of core something needs to be un-inlined to render it subclassable
> - and while riba's provided prior art for how to minimise the impact of that
> there would still likely be a slight slowdown, and I think that would need
> to be debated on the merits at the time.

Again agreed.

Sorry not much to add on these points beyond that.

A.

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