[epo-core] Re: EPO Special Membership

[Mark Keating]

Hi Devin,

I have bcc'd the directors core into this conversation so that:
EVERYONE IS ON THE SAME PAGE IN WHAT THEY SAY!
[The shouting emphasis is for the two directors you spoke to and not 
aimed at you mate.]

Devin Austin wrote:
> Hi Mark,
Hi Devin
>
> I've been talking things over with jshirley and mst about obtaining a 
> special membership.  
Okay, to clarify, the term 'special membership' in regards to the 
Organisation already has a meaning. It is a type of membership whereby 
someone shows their support but does not have any rights. it is also a 
whole way connected to the legal status of members, so let us not use 
special membership as it will get confusing. Instead I propose we use 
the term Exceptional Circumsatnces to Membership (we can shorten that to 
EC Membership) when discussing this. I know it is a little pedantic, but 
if we call it special membership any audit of decisions we make is going 
to be problematical.
> I wasn't sure how to approach this or if it's in review yet, but 
> jshirley said he'd give me the go ahead if i was willing to help him 
> work on the new EPO site using Moveable Type (regards to writing 
> plugins, etc).  mst said this seemed sane as well.
This does seem sane (I know you tried to grab me but we missed each 
other on IRC), but we do encounter some issues from a legal standpoint. 
Firstly I need to know that you volunteered to help the Organisation of 
your own free will and that you approached us with an offer to help and 
not the other way around. Secondly I need to know if you intend to 
consider us rewarding you with an ordinary membership in lieu of you 
providing help and whether you would withdraw your help if we refused.

Basically, if you volunteered to help us of your own free will then I 
would consider asking the board that we use an executive decision (vote) 
to grant you a release of your fees this year so that you can be listed 
as an Ordinary Member, we would add the (EC) suffix to your membership. 
This will allow you to be an active member of the organisation without 
breaching the guidelines and rules set down in the Articles of 
Association concerning rights of members and the rules regarding payment 
of fees (and more importantly the lack of rights of Special Members).
>
> Thoughts?
(If everyone responding to this could hit reply-to-all if they need 
Devin to see a response, if you just want your response to hit the 
core-list then you know what to do :) )
>
> Thanks!
Sorry that we have to take a slightly convoluted looking route, this is 
only to preserve the rights of paying members and the organisations 
principles (and it would be nice if we could also follow company law 
since we're registered with it :) ).

At this point I have put the Ordinary Membership on hold while we sort 
this out, so if I could hear from the directors soon we can move ahead 
:P -Poke-

Thanks

Mark
>
> -Devin
>
> On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:31 AM, Mark Keating 
> <mdk at shadowcatsystems.co.uk <mailto:mdk at shadowcatsystems.co.uk>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Devin
>
>     I have pleasure in accepting your application as an Ordinary
>     member of the Enlightened Perl Organisation.
>
>     Your membership number is: EPO-08-1052
>
>     Please could you supply a postal address for our records, note
>     that this address will be used solely by the EPO and will not be
>     shared with any other person, organisation or company. The address
>     is a simple legal requirement for the list of membership and shall
>     be used for that purpose.
>
>     Also could you please specify the method by which you would like
>     to pay your yearly Membership, we accept Paypal, Moneybookers or
>     Cheques.
>
>     Kind regards
>
>     Mark Keating
>     Secretary, EPO
>
>     -- 
>     Mark Keating BA (Hons)              |  Writer, Photographer,
>     Cat-Herder
>     Managing Director                   |  Shadowcat Systems Limited
>     Director/Secretary                  |  Enlightened Perl Organisation
>     http://www.shadowcat.co.uk          |  http://www.enlightenedperl.org
>     http://linkedin.com/in/markkeating  | 'Sufficiently Advanced
>     Technology'
>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Devin Austin
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-- 
Mark Keating BA (Hons)              |  Writer, Photographer, Cat-Herder
Managing Director                   |  Shadowcat Systems Limited
Director/Secretary                  |  Enlightened Perl Organisation
http://www.shadowcat.co.uk          |  http://www.enlightenedperl.org
http://linkedin.com/in/markkeating  | 'Sufficiently Advanced Technology'