[html-formfu] Why not div (instead of span) for container_tag?

Zbigniew Lukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Fri Mar 7 19:21:45 GMT 2008


On Fri, Mar 7, 2008 at 7:58 PM, Carl Franks <fireartist at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/03/2008, Jeff Dairiki <dairiki at dairiki.org> wrote:
>  > I've just started using FormFu.   And I think it's great.  (Thank you.)
>  >
>  >  Here's one thing that's been bothering me though.   Most of the field
>  >  types use (by default) a <span> for their container_tag.  It seems to
>  >  me that the default (for most field types) should be a <div>.
>  >
>  >   - Generally, it would seem one would want each field on a new line ---
>  >    <div> expresses that, <span> does not.
>  >
>  >   - The default output without CSS is nearly unreadable.
>  >
>  >   - The vertically aligned css (which so far is the only good
>  >    example CSS for FormFu I've found --- are there others?) converts
>  >    all these spans to display: block, in any case.
>  >
>  >
>  >  So why the design decision to use the <span>s?  I'm guessing (from
>  >  what I've seen with the rest of the code) that there's a good reason
>  >  but (as outlined above) I can't figure out what it is.
>  >
>  >  I know I can change the element_defaults (and I have).  But if there's
>  >  a good reason to stick with <span>s please tell me before I get too
>  >  far along with my <div>s.
>
>  To quote myself from an email on the html-widget list on 23/03/07...
>
>  " At the moment the default is 'span', but I'm starting to come round to
>  the idea of changing it to 'div', for a better default layout without
>  css. "
>
>  So I can't really argue with myself ;)
>
>  I've tested changing the online cssapp to use divs, and it doesn't
>  make any difference to the layout with the vertically-aligned css, but
>  does look much better when viewed without css.
>
>  So, yes, I think we might as well change it.
>  Anyone else with an opinion on this?
>

I am for it - I've talked to a designer here and he was as well
surprised to see the spans.  I have no opinion of myself - but I think
we should make it easy for the designers.

>  Carl
>
>
>
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