On 5 October 2010 10:45, Shlomi Fish <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:shlomif@iglu.org.il">shlomif@iglu.org.il</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div class="im">On Tuesday 05 October 2010 08:15:04 Leo Lapworth wrote:<br> > Anyway - have a read of the README here:<br>
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> <a href="http://github.com/ranguard/learn-perl-org" target="_blank">http://github.com/ranguard/learn-perl-org</a><br>
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> This is what I'd like to make the focus of <a href="http://learn.perl.org" target="_blank">learn.perl.org</a> - there would be<br>
> other resources on the site as well, but I'd like to focus on this and then<br>
> build up around it.<br>
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</div>OK, I've read the README, and made a GitHub pull request for a typo.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>Applied thanks, I also updated the README line breaks as you suggested.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
But I don't like this direction:</blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm sorry to hear that.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"> <a href="http://learn.perl.org/" target="_blank">http://learn.perl.org/</a> should primarily be a portal<br>
and beginners' first-stop for learning Perl, similar to what<br>
<a href="http://perl-begin.org/" target="_blank">http://perl-begin.org/</a> is now. </blockquote><div><br></div><div>Perl-begin.org is confusing to use - I'm sure there is some great content there, and I'd like to see that packaged into work examples, with tests and documentation and more.</div>
<div><br></div><div>The <a href="http://learn.perl.org">learn.perl.org</a> site will have some content that relates to the basics, but that sort of documentation should really be part of the perldoc project (which I've been told is in need of rewriting / cleaning up for 'modern' Perl practices - <a href="http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2010/09/a-perldoc-pruning.html">http://www.modernperlbooks.com/mt/2010/09/a-perldoc-pruning.html</a> - so maybe that would be a good place to introduce some of the perl-begin content?). It would be far better to improve this documentation and link to it, rather than forking off somewhere else.</div>
<div><br></div><div>e.g.</div><div><div><a href="http://perldoc.perl.org/perlintro.html">http://perldoc.perl.org/perlintro.html</a> vs <a href="http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/perl-for-newbies/part1/">http://perl-begin.org/tutorials/perl-for-newbies/part1/</a> - if perl-begin copy is better then that should be used for perlintro - if it's not then the perlintro documentation should be used - there is no advantage to having both. If it is more than a basic intro, the it should work in the context of an example module, which can then also include tests and POD, getting a newbie into the habit of seeing Perl in this 'standard' format.</div>
</div><div><br></div><div>I want to focus <a href="http://learn.perl.org">learn.perl.org</a> on learning by example - rather the learning by reading about semantics - that's what perldoc, computer degrees and the learning perl books (I think there is discussion of this being updated) are for.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I'm not saying there won't be any other content other than this core idea, but I want to make sure that it is not a duplication of other projects/sources which would be better to link to instead of trying to replicate.</div>
<div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">You have all the material on<br>
<a href="http://perl-begin.org/" target="_blank">http://perl-begin.org/</a> at your disposal and I will gladly help you with that.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Thanks - maybe you could start porting some of the content into the perldoc project - and once I've got a bit further we can discuss what could be packaged into CPAN modules and what should be on the site as content.</div>
<div></div></div><br><div>Cheers</div><div><br></div><div>Leo</div>