[Catalyst] What a waste of time

Adam Jacob adam at stalecoffee.org
Thu Apr 27 02:04:34 CEST 2006

Okay, time to stop feeding the trolls.  How about we just close this  
thread and move on?


On Apr 26, 2006, at 4:00 PM, rails coder wrote:

> On 4/26/06, Cory Watson <jheephat at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am quite interested in why you would label Catalyst as 'consulting
> ware' then accept paying $22.50 for the Agile Development PDF (which
> is what I'm assuming you purchased) for Ruby on Rails.  I have nothing
> against buying a PDF... I think it's a great idea.  I'm just at a loss
> to explain your rationale.
> How about because:
> 1. the book exists
> 2. it only costs 22.50 (you can't even get catalyst devs to laugh  
> at you for that price)
> I'm not that cheap, and I would have paid for a decent catalyst  
> book or paid somebody to write a decent tutorial, if such book or  
> willing person would have been available.  I won't pay somebody  
> several hundred, or even more than a thousand dollars, to explain  
> how their poorly documented software works when other well  
> documented software is available.
> Asterisk devs are using the same "consulting ware" business model..  
> the documentation is incredibly poor to non-existant, and none of  
> them will share their setups with you. There is always this  
> attitude that "I spent months/years learning/developing this thing,  
> it doesn't hurt you to spend months/years learning how to use it  
> via trial and error/humiliation/newbie pecking order/whatever...  
> When they write a decent book, I will buy it. I don't have months  
> of free time to waste learning by trial and error.
> On top of all that, the catalyst installation still sucks ass, even  
> if one can manage to do it sucessfully.
> This project really needs to get a clue about attracting new users  
> (unless they simply don't want many).
> --
> rubycoder
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