[Catalyst] Re: Last Chance/LastDay:Webdevelopmentplatformcontestand Perl / Catalyst

[Hermida, Leandro]

> Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior [mailto:acid06 at gmail.com] wrote:
> On 12/4/06, Hermida, Leandro <Leandro.Hermida at fmi.ch> wrote:
>> I think it is possible to achieve both flexibilty and achieveability 
>> in the same framework.  Catalyst can be "a pre-packaged framework
that 
>> just works" with a low cost of entry while still providing flexbility

>> to advanced users needing more power.
>
> Of course it is. You could make this "packaging" as a documentation 
> detail, i.e., document that the default templating system is TT and 
> the default ORM is DBIC and so on. Maybe provide some more integration

> layers that'd make them all work seamlessly.
> 
> There are two problems, however:
> - What *exactly* should be done?
> - Who's available to do it?
> 
> People who are experienced enough to know how to do this, usually,
won't see any value in doing it, since once you're done with your rookie
> phase, things become much simpler - you get used to things the way
they are.

I completely agree with you but remember the point of this thread: that
programmers and newbies are not chosing Perl.  First impressions matter
a lot.  The "experienced enough" people know the ropes and will probably
not drop Perl if they hit a snag but to bring new programmers into the
community things have to be made much easier and more seamless.  Other
language communities have managed to do it so why can't the Perl
community?