[Catalyst] C::C::FB and captchas or similar

Joe Landman landman at scalableinformatics.com
Mon Mar 19 16:14:31 GMT 2007



Octavian Rasnita wrote:
> From: "Joe Landman" <landman at scalableinformatics.com>
> 
>> Hi folks:
>>
>>  Two part question.  Has anyone played with captchas in conjunction
>> with C::C::FB?  Second part:  should I be looking at different
>> technology rather than captchas?
> 
> I have no idea if there are other perl modules that can replace Captcha,
> but I have seen some pages that use to put some questions that should be
> answered. There were simple questions that can be understood by anyone.

Understood.  Ask a "complex" problem spelled out in a sentence that even
if a bot could parse, it still could not "understand" and answer (that
is, until "the singularity" :) ).

Localizing this could be hard, as the world doesn't necessarily speak
english.  It would need to be some sort of elementary mathematical
problem, requiring a typed answer.

> It is very good to avoid using Captcha, for following World Wide Web
> Consortium recommendations, and for making your pages accessible for the
> blind also, because the screen readers cannot recognize the text from
> those images.

Hmmm... I haven't been focusing on this, but it is worth a read.  I am
working on making the pages as simple as possible (no AJAXian-ness) for
a combination of aesthetic and personal time reasons.  Any pointers to
document design elements to encourage accessibility you can provide
would be appreciated.

> If you still want to use Captcha, it would be also nice to offer an
> alternative solution, also presenting a .wav file with those letters
> spoken.

Now thats a really interesting captcha ...  using audio ...  wouldn't
work for deaf readers though.  But your point is well taken.  Don't make
it harder than it needs to be.  Make the test more useful by segregating
machinations of the test, from the cognitive process and response.
Since blind and deaf users, and pretty much all users, have the
capability to enter keyboard (or keyboard like) response, and all should
be able to "read" text from the test, keep it simple, and text based.

Thanks, will think about this.  Have some ideas already.

Joe

> 
> Octavian

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