[Catalyst] So, what do we want in the -next- book?

[Ian Sillitoe]

So as I said - I contacted O'Reilly to request info/submit interest in a
Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices. I've been in contact with a chap called
Andy Oram who seems to be O'Reilly's Perl Guy (FWIW he also seems a nice,
but very busy, guy). I was waiting for him to give me the nod before posting
the following thread to the mailing list...


----


I just had a moment to reply. You can post my reply to the mailing list--I
do appreciate that you asked first. Results of my asking around are
discouraging. I will try to do some more research next week, but this is a
busy time for me. (I have only 6 days at home during the whole month of
April.)

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Sillitoe" <ian.sillitoe at googlemail.com>
To: "Andy Oram" <andyo at oreilly.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:28:34 AM (GMT-0500) America/New_York
Subject: Re: Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices

Andy,

Thanks for getting back to me. It would obviously be nice to see
O'Reilly give Catalyst the full "Best Practices" treatment, however as
you say, a more simple "Catalyst Cookbook/Hacks" book of code snippets
would presumably be much easier to produce/edit and therefore more
likely to happen. The Catalyst POD docs are already pretty good and
will undoubtably continue to improve. However most Catalyst
developers, i.e. the people that would actually fork out money (or get
their employers to fork out money) to buy the book, would probably be
very happy just to get the interesting snippets in lots of different
case scenarios.

Also, I was going to post the reply you gave on the Catalyst mailing
list - but it feels a bit rude without at least asking you first - any
objections?

Lots of people would be really interested in any further developements
so if you had a chance to update me when you hear anything, I would be
really grateful.

Regards,

Ian


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Andy Oram <andyo at oreilly.com>
Date: Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:46 PM
Subject: Catalyst Cookbook/Best Practices
To: ian.sillitoe at googlemail.com


I just had a moment to reply to your request for a Catalyst Cookbook,
which was forwarded to me because I edit most of our Perl books now.

 I appreciate your contacting us, and I'll ask the Stonehenge trainers
as well as the many O'Reilly employees who are heavily involved in
Perl development. Unfortunately, it's very hard to make money on books
about Web frameworks. Even the Rails market, which used to be very
good, is weakening.

 Basically, the success of the open source movement makes book
publishing difficult. There are lots of competing frameworks and
languages. There are core groups of excited users for each one, but
rarely do they add up to a market for a book.

 But we'll see what our Perl contacts say. The idea of bypassing the
tutorial and writing a cookbook is appealing.




On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Ian Sillitoe <ian.sillitoe at googlemail.com>
wrote:

>
> On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 10:36 PM, Pierre Moret <pierre at sw2.ch> wrote:
>
> > Jon wrote:
> >
> > > [...] Or like others have suggested, a cookbook with a large variety
> > > of useful examples showing "best practices" for different situations.
> >
> >
> > That's exactly what I would like to see. I got the first book (thanks!)
> > and would buy such a cookbook immediately.
> >
>
> Seconded... and, like one of the previous posters, I've also added my
> tuppence to (proposals@) O'Reilly (.com) suggesting they get on the case.
>
>
-------------- next part --------------
An HTML attachment was scrubbed...
URL: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/catalyst/attachments/20080427/9548c=
311/attachment.htm