[Catalyst] Rackspace Ubuntu 14.04

Thu May 14 13:22:16 GMT 2015

If you are installing Catalyst over a previous setup, or at least something where Moose already exists try using the moose-updated helper script to see if that clears stuff up -jnap 

     On Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:47 AM, Duncan Garland <duncan.garland at motortrak.com> wrote:

 Hi John,

I didn't save all the terminal output, but here's what I have got from the second attempt.

Regards

Duncan

On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:30 PM, John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote:

I'd love to see a full install attempt.  I was getting tests for Perl down to 5.8.8 before we release so I am not aware of a hard dependency on Tie::StdHash.
However I don't use cpanplus, and I write my own makefile.pl, not the one that Catalyst::Devel writes.  Its possible that something is going on there.  If someone can reproduce and send me an install trace I will review.
The intention for Catalyst is to run on the oldest Perl possible.  However I am finding particularly with the unicode stuff that getting a stable setup lower than 5.14 is a bit hard.  I do use 5.10.1 at work and we have it running there without trouble FWIW
John  

     On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:23 PM, Robert Brown <rob at intelcompute.com> wrote:

  Interesting, we don't use local::lib, just perlbrew, both dev and production, and keep the whole perlbrew dir in svn, works great.

 Will let the catalyst devs answer the actual/original question...

 On 13/05/15 19:01, Duncan Garland wrote:

      Hi,

  We don't use perlbrew on production, but I've used it in other areas without a problem. As far as I know it's very highly regarded.

  I've used local::lib successfully for development work ie Temporarily pointing to some different modules.

  I spent quite a lot of time at the beginning of this year trying to set it up so that we could use it seriously. I wanted to be able to do a twice yearly update from CPAN of all our modules into a seperate directory structure so that it would be easy to revert if the updated tree turned out to  contain a bug.

  local::lib plays nicely with cpan but not with cpanplus. The default way for a Catalyst app to maintain it's dependencies is to maintain Makefile.PL. When you run that it uses cpanplus. I struggled with it for quite a while and gave up.

  All the best.

 On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Robert Brown <rob at intelcompute.com> wrote:

  Not to answer your actual question, but...

 Have you also thought using Perlbrew http://perlbrew.pl

 As regular user, you can install any version of Perl locally (to your home dir), plus all the modules via cpanm, and keep everything self-contained for a particular user.

 It's made our deployments a breeze, rather than dealing with the system-wide perl, etc.

 (There's also local::lib tho I've not delved into that myself).

 Hope it helps a little.

 Rob

 On 13/05/15 18:16, Duncan Garland wrote:

        Hi,

  I've just spun up a Rackspace server with Ubuntu 14.04 and tried to install Catalyst from CPAN.

  If the print out means what it seems to mean, then Catalyst will no longer install cleanly from CPAN on any version prior to 5.20.

  It's saying that there is a dependency on Tie::StdHash and that Tie::StdHash won't install without force because the latest version of the module is part of perl-5.20.2.

  It won't effect me because I'll just force it or download an older version of the module.

  All the same, it seems a bit poor.

  Is it deliberate?

  Regards

  Duncan

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