[Catalyst] Rackspace Ubuntu 14.04

[Duncan Garland]

Hi John,

It's system Perl. Logged in a root, logged into cpan, typed "install
Catalyst".

It's a clean Rackspace server running Ubuntu 14.04. I created it yesterday
afternoon because I wanted to prototype something.

Catalyst installs correctly from the rpms ( apt-get install
libcatalyst-perl, apt-get install    libcatalyst-devel-perl) but the
dependencies aren't being handled correctly when installing from CPAN.

Regards

Duncan

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 2:02 PM, John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Hi Duncan,
>
> wow thats a lot of errors... this is system Perl now or a local lib, I got
> lost a bit in the thread above.
>
>
>
>   On Thursday, May 14, 2015 4:47 AM, Duncan Garland <
> duncan.garland at motortrak.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi John,
>
> I didn't save all the terminal output, but here's what I have got from the
> second attempt.
>
> Regards
>
> Duncan
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:30 PM, John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'd love to see a full install attempt.  I was getting tests for Perl down
> to 5.8.8 before we release so I am not aware of a hard dependency on
> Tie::StdHash.
>
> However I don't use cpanplus, and I write my own makefile.pl, not the one
> that Catalyst::Devel writes.  Its possible that something is going on
> there.  If someone can reproduce and send me an install trace I will review.
>
> The intention for Catalyst is to run on the oldest Perl possible.  However
> I am finding particularly with the unicode stuff that getting a stable
> setup lower than 5.14 is a bit hard.  I do use 5.10.1 at work and we have
> it running there without trouble FWIW
>
> John
>
>
>
>
>   On Wednesday, May 13, 2015 2:23 PM, Robert Brown <rob at intelcompute.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>  Interesting, we don't use local::lib, just perlbrew, both dev and
> production, and keep the whole perlbrew dir in svn, works great.
>
> Will let the catalyst devs answer the actual/original question...
>
>
> On 13/05/15 19:01, Duncan Garland wrote:
>
>    Hi,
>
>  We don't use perlbrew on production, but I've used it in other areas
> without a problem. As far as I know it's very highly regarded.
>
>  I've used local::lib successfully for development work ie Temporarily
> pointing to some different modules.
>
>  I spent quite a lot of time at the beginning of this year trying to set
> it up so that we could use it seriously. I wanted to be able to do a twice
> yearly update from CPAN of all our modules into a seperate directory
> structure so that it would be easy to revert if the updated tree turned out
> to contain a bug.
>
>  local::lib plays nicely with cpan but not with cpanplus. The default way
> for a Catalyst app to maintain it's dependencies is to maintain
> Makefile.PL. When you run that it uses cpanplus. I struggled with it for
> quite a while and gave up.
>
>  All the best.
>
> On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 6:26 PM, Robert Brown <rob at intelcompute.com>
> wrote:
>
>  Not to answer your actual question, but...
>
> Have you also thought using Perlbrew http://perlbrew.pl
>
> As regular user, you can install any version of Perl locally (to your home
> dir), plus all the modules via cpanm, and keep everything self-contained
> for a particular user.
>
> It's made our deployments a breeze, rather than dealing with the
> system-wide perl, etc.
>
> (There's also local::lib tho I've not delved into that myself).
>
> Hope it helps a little.
>
> Rob
>
>
> On 13/05/15 18:16, Duncan Garland wrote:
>
>     Hi,
>
>  I've just spun up a Rackspace server with Ubuntu 14.04 and tried to
> install Catalyst from CPAN.
>
>  If the print out means what it seems to mean, then Catalyst will no
> longer install cleanly from CPAN on any version prior to 5.20.
>
>  It's saying that there is a dependency on Tie::StdHash and that
> Tie::StdHash won't install without force because the latest version of the
> module is part of perl-5.20.2.
>
>  It won't effect me because I'll just force it or download an older
> version of the module.
>
>  All the same, it seems a bit poor.
>
>  Is it deliberate?
>
>  Regards
>
>  Duncan
>
>
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