[Dbix-class] How I hate (some) DBAs

[Ian]

John Napiorkowski wrote:
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>> From: Ian <dbix-class at iandocherty.com>
>> To: Class user and developer list <dbix-class at lists.scsys.co.uk>
>> Sent: Monday, August 3, 2009 1:49:03 AM
>> Subject: [Dbix-class] How I hate (some) DBAs
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>> Hi
>> We are just coming to the end of our development with a (very) tight timescale 
>> and pretty much on-time due to the use of DBIC and Catalyst.
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>> Development was on MySQL but someone has now decided we have to run on Oracle. 
>> OK, no problem we thought, it should migrate over with very few issues since we 
>> are using DBIC.
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>> However, the Oracle DBA has thrown his teddy out of the pram and refuses to 
>> accept that DBIC can generate efficient code, or code that he can inspect, and 
>> insists that we use an 'API' that he will show us how to create to use pl/sql 
>> statements. From what I have seen of it, it will take me back about 10 years to 
>> where I was trying to generate my own DB abstraction layer before I learned 
>> about CDBI and DBIC. Argghh.
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> Is your application going to run in a shared Oracle cluster?  That could account for
> the DBA being very touchy, since s/he might be worried about how the load of your
> application will affect the other applications.  If so, try to demostrate load and
> how you system impacts the site.
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Yes I think this is part of the problem

> I can understand the whole "stored procedures are the API" thing.  It was a 
> pretty normal way to introduce a layer between the database and the application
> and would give the DBA more control.
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Control is the word here I think.

> Is your DBA under fire?  The economy is not so good and people are looking to
> make sure they have work to do...
No, I just think from talking to others that he is a difficult person to 
work with!
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>> I have pointed out to the project manager that this will break everything we 
>> have written so far. We will have to manually write all the code to do the heavy 
>> lifting and shifting that DBIC does for us so easily. It is likely to take us at 
>> least twice as long as it has already taken us to redevelop the whole 
>> application to write the new database abstraction layer and modify our 
>> application to use it.
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>> Yes I can output the generated SQL from DBIC, but this does not satisfy our DBA.
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>> How do other developers cope with these people? Are there any DBAs on here that 
>> embrace DBIC that can give me any advice?
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>> Regards
>> Ian
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