[Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

[Darren Duncan]

On 2016-10-12 12:14 AM, Hartmaier Alexander wrote:
> On 2016-10-06 21:15, Darren Duncan wrote:
>> On 2016-10-06 8:43 AM, Matt S Trout wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 04, 2016 at 08:17:49PM -0700, Darren Duncan wrote:
>>>> That would be good, also in light with how that sentence continues:
>>>>
>>>> "I suspect what we need to try and achieve is to get DBIC a bit more
>>>> decentralised - have it be a specific framework build atop a
>>>> more-like-Plack-for-DB-stuff - but you already know that's what I
>>>> have in mind and we both already know it's going to be a big-ass job
>>>> and we'll see if it pans out or not."
>>>>
>>>> My own near term planned contributions to DBIC are precisely what
>>>> you said above.  They would constitute a more-like-Plack-for-DB
>>>> ecosystem and in particular they should benefit DBIC by optimizing
>>>> it more for maintainability, so it is easier for others to add
>>>> features or make changes or otherwise just be more confident that it
>>>> works properly.  If things go as I hope, this should start to land
>>>> in about a month.
>>
> Isn't DBI 'Plack-for-DB'?

In a manner of speaking DBI is indeed a Plack-for-DB, and came first.

However, DBI was also designed 20 years ago and has, for various reasons 
including being a Mature project, solidified around particular design decisions 
and API limitations that would have been chosen differently had it been invented 
today.  I know from various talk over the years that many people including Tim 
Bunce agree with this view.

A reasonable analogy is that my Plack-for-DB is akin to Perl 6 where DBI is akin 
to Perl 5.

I will refrain from discussing further details here, doing so is off-topic for 
the thread.

I only brought up my plans in this thread since I thought it would inform a 
discussion about the future of DBIC and its ecosystem like SQL::Abstract for 
people to know that I have a concrete vision for (aspects of) it and people 
don't have to think no one has a vision.

-- Darren Duncan