[Dbix-class] Fwd: Re: GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system

Dave Howorth dhoworth at mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk
Wed Oct 19 10:20:43 GMT 2016


On 2016-10-19 05:07, John SJ Anderson wrote:
>>> From: Chris Prather <perigrin at prather.org>
>>> Date: Oct 18, 2016 at 11:56 PM
>>> To: DBIx::Class user and developer list <dbix-class at lists.scsys.co.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [Dbix-class] GOVERNANCE: An actually concrete proposal w/bootstrap governance system
>>>
>>> So I'm only a interested user of DBIC. I took enough DBA classes in college to make me painfully aware that I don't want to understand how DBIC does what it does. I'm just very happy it does it.
>>>
>>> I am however deeply vested in how the Perl community self-regulates, and as such I've read probably more of this thread (and the related threads) than is healthy for someone who really should be busy trying to find paying work. That said I think this Governance Policy has merit, there are only three changes I would recommend two need to be made nearly immutable at the outset to be effective, one has already been proposed and can be adopted later.
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>>> 1) The list of people with PAUSE COMAINT permissions and the list of of Voting Members should always be identical. Best would be if FIRSTCOME were held in trust by some DBIC account similar to how XML permissions are held (https://metacpan.org/author/DAHUT), and everyone else on the VM list were strictly co-maint. This might be overly complicated for what is mostly symbolic reasons but it would go a long way to demonstrating the new Governance.
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>>> If someone resigns from the VM then they are removed from COMAINT.
>>>
>>> 2) Voting Members and the LAV (List aggregate Vote) have unilateral veto power for any proposal. Meaning if any Voting Member or the LAV make an explicit -1 to a proposal. The Proposal as it stands *in that thread* is dead. It will need to be re-proposed in such a way that the vetoing member either assents or abstains. This protects minority voices. My preference would be to require unanimity of consent but that would IN MY OPINION simply open the process up to be gamed during it's infancy.
>>>
>>> Finally this has already been proposed but I would add my experience with the Moose community.
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>>> 3) A full PROPOSAL is required to merge a topic branch into the mainline release branch.
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> +1 to all Chris’s suggestions.
>
> john.

I agree with Chris's observations too. It struck me that Matt's original 
voting proposals would mean that the community had no effect in 
practice; Chris's proposal seems to overcome that.

So +1 to Chris's suggestions
and -1 to the original proposal as proposed.

Cheers, Dave

PS In constructing low-energy buildings it is vital to achieve an 
excellent degree of airtightness, which is not familiar to most 
builders. One way to achieve it is by nominating an 'airtightness 
champion' but that only works if the champion has the power to stop work 
and even order rework. I see a parallel.



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