[Catalyst] Meios: A Catalyst Photo Gallery Example

Philip Edelbrock phil at netroedge.com
Sat Aug 20 00:45:40 CEST 2005


How about:

<noscript> You need to have Javascript enabled to use this site </noscript>


;') Just teasing.


Phil

Max Demian wrote:
> The best practice at this point is to have a fully functional
> javascript-less/regular forms interface and have your javascript
> library attach itself onload and override the onsubmit,etc. handlers
> to make your page ajax-ified.
> 
> It's not a perfect solution by any means but it can be done fairly cleanly.
> 
> (Yes, it is nice to make intranet sites where you don't have to worry
> about accessibility, no-javascript, no-css users etc. but...oh well)
> 
> On 8/19/05, Christopher H. Laco <claco at chrislaco.com> wrote:
> 
>>Matt S Trout wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, Aug 19, 2005 at 02:26:01PM -0700, Adam Jacob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Aug 19, 2005, at 1:57 PM, Christopher H. Laco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't, by it's very nature as Javascript.
>>>>>
>>>>>Let rephrase that. I build some fancy forms that use AJAX. What is
>>>>>the uer experience for the people without javascript? If the answer
>>>>>is "the forms don't work for them", then that is bad.
>>>>
>>>>Right.  The way to do that would be to change the view you return to
>>>>the user; one the ajax-ified, web 2.0 style interface, the other the
>>>>normal get/post mechanisms we all know and love.
>>>
>>>
>>>Any view system that can't do that automagically from a single set of
>>>templates is insufficiently advanced.
>>>
>>>Watch This Space.
>>>
>>
>>Right.
>>
>>#1. Browser sniffing on the server-side is flawed. Always.
>>#2. Forms [and your site] should always work without javascript. Always.
>>  [Well, with the exception of hardcore Intranets]
>>
>>Any deviation from those two rules almost always leads to problems.
>>Now client-side feature sniffing.. A O K.
>>
>>-=Chris
>>
>>
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