Hi Allen, > Also does cpan have an upgrade command (ala apt-get -fu dist-upgrade)? To install everything that is outdated you can do something like: perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->install(CPAN::Shell->r)' or to see just the versions that have updates perl -MCPAN -e 'CPAN::Shell->r;' take care, jason -- Jason Woodward woodwardj at jaos.org