[Catalyst] Is it normal to have lots of trouble installing catalyst?

[John Napiorkowski]

As I am on Ubuntu I am really tempted to use the stuff
I am finding on
"http://alioth.debian.org/projects/pkg-catalyst/"
which seems pretty up to date but I'd really like to
help out solving the installing from CPAN(PLUS) thing,
since that is what all the advocacy is talking about. 
Right now Catalyst is nowhere as easy to setup and get
programming as is Zope or RubyonRails (and is about as
difficult as setting up my EJB containers) which is a
problem I'd like to help a little to solve.

--john

--- Scott Karns <scottkinsf at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Well, I'm a confirmed distro package manager
> adherent
> -- Mandriva's urpmi is my tool of choice. When I
> began
> exploring Catalyst, I was lucky enough to find that
> someone had already packaged a relatively recent
> version of Catalyst so I started with that, updated
> it
> to what was then the most recent release (5.61 I
> think) and just kept downloading from CPAN and
> building my own packages for all the required
> modules
> for which no pre-built packages existed. Looking in
> my
> RPM directory, it looks like that came to
> approximately 30 packages I had to create, build and
> install. urpmi took care of any other dependencies
> for
> which packages already existed. It took the better
> part of two days, but now I'm all set.
> 
> I haven't yet attempted installing on another
> system,
> that's probably a worthwhile exercise at this point.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> 
> --- John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > I'm just asking for people experiences trying to
> > install catalyst.  I've done a lot of web searches
> > and
> > all I get is that using catalyst is as easy as
> > having
> > a modern version of perl and typing "perl -MCPAN
> > -e'install Task::Catalyst'" but that hasn't been
> the
> > case for me.
> > 
> > My typical experience with installing catalyst is
> > that
> > CPAN tries to install what appears to be hundreds
> of
> > prerequisites and then dies for various reasons. 
> > Typical one of more of the required files dies but
> > it's hard to tell since each required file seems
> to
> > spawn off a dozen new required files and I kind of
> > get
> > lost as to what is dying and for which reason.
> > 
> > I figured my perl was just way out of date so I
> > tried
> > downloading perl5.8.8 and compiling a fresh
> install
> > from scratch.  Pretty much the same trouble.
> > 
> > I find I can get Catalyst installed after about a
> > day
> > of messing around and liberally using force
> > installs,
> > but of course I am not sure if that is so good. 
> > I've
> > tried installing Catalyst on FedoraCore2, Cento4.2
> > and
> > the most recent version fo Ubuntu linux.  I also
> > tried
> > installing it on Activestate Perl for Windows but
> > gave
> > up completely in that one :)
> > 
> > I am not asking anyone to solve my problems.  I
> just
> > want to hear from you all if my experiences are
> just
> > plain strange or if this is the norm?  I
> understand
> > Catalyst is in heavy development so there are
> bound
> > to
> > be troubles, but I just need to know if this is
> > something I can really start to rely on for my new
> > projects.  Other people clearly are, so I am just
> > really confused that I am having so much trouble
> > with
> > this.  To be honest if I spend days trying to set
> it
> > up on my clients servers that is not going to look
> > too
> > good.  So please your honest opinions.
> > 
> > John
> > 
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