[Catalyst] RFC: no make install on catalyst apps

Zbigniew Lukasiak zzbbyy at gmail.com
Sun Aug 2 17:42:14 GMT 2009


On Sun, Aug 2, 2009 at 1:32 PM, John Napiorkowski<jjn1056 at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Tomas Doran <bobtfish at bobtfish.net>
>> To: The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst at lists.scsys.co.uk>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 8:28:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] RFC: no make install on catalyst apps
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>> On 28 Jul 2009, at 14:14, Marcus Ramberg wrote:
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>> > I see catalyst apps being complete CPAN packages as a real advantage.
>> > Taking away the make install option seems very limiting
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>> +1
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>> I would very much support moving to a 'real' sharedir for templates / config
>> etc, rather than the current hacks (given appropriate back compat) however.
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>> Cheers
>> t0m
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> I am vaguely planning something roughly based on the XDG directory specification:
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> http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
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> for localizing configs and related.  Something like this would make is much easier to have multiply versions of the same catalyst application running.  Like, if I had MojoMojo installed and wanted to run two seperate wikis with different configs.  You can do that now but requires playing with %ENV and copying some configs around.
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> In my mind the way this would work is that you'd have the config and other share data stuff as templates inside your dist, and than at install time we'd copy to all the correct places.  Then we'd merge configurations in the following order.
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> $cpan/config/myapp.conf
> $home/.config/myapp.conf
> /etc/myapp.conf
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> Where $cpan is where cpan stuff is installed globally, $home is your home directory.  Maybe we could move around the order a bit, but this way we'd set all the 'no moving parts here' config in the $cpan (stuff like when the app was installed, some paths).  Then whatever user started the app, we'd read from her local configuration (we'd probably need some sort of 'first time' script if it's not present, which would copy from a template and prompt for required values) and last we'd merge in any globally set up stuff.
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> Maybe with more people using local lib this is not as important, although I see local lib most as a developer tool or as a workaround for people that are on shared servers.
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> That's just for config, but could work as well for search paths for templates

So config is supposed to move into a 'config' subdir  (and later be
merged with the configs in home and etc)?  Am I reading that right?
Maybe we could call it 'etc' instead of config?  And now templates -
can we also move them into a 'templates' subdir?


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