[Catalyst] What text editor to use?
Shlomi Fish
shlomif at iglu.org.il
Wed Mar 9 21:12:35 GMT 2011
Hi Thomas and all,
On Thursday 03 Mar 2011 04:50:08 Thomas L. Shinnick wrote:
> At 08:13 PM 3/2/2011, gvim wrote:
> >On 02/03/2011 11:10, John M. Dlugosz wrote:
> >>What's a good text editor to use for Catalyst/TT development?
> >>
> >>The editor I really like for C++ doesn't handle XML well. I've been
> >>using "Notepad++" for windows, but the syntax highlighting doesn't
> >>understand mixing TT inside the base language, and it has tabs only
> >>instead of multiple visible windows.
> >>
> >>I would entertain both Windows and Linux solutions.
> >>
> >>TIA, --John
> >
> >Vim does everything you will ever need if you're dealing with text
> >
> >:-). Try MacVim if you're on OS X:
> >http://code.google.com/p/macvim/
> >
> >gvim
>
> I second the nomination for Vim, for another important reason. I
> hate switching editors. So, er... huh?
>
> Vim runs everywhere. I can wander from platform to platform and not
> have to worry whether something capable is available. That was
> really something I needed back when (15+ years) when Windows was so
> badly served. Still using it, even on Solaris! ;-)
>
> Now if you like learning new editors, or having 2 or 3 "in your
> pocket", fine. But I've not yet found something I couldn't do in
> Vim. Hey I rarely need to edit in binary, but it can do it. And
> hacking Unicode isn't so revolutionary now, but was possible with Vim
> before some other editors. Good pedigree, barks on command, etc., etc.
>
One reason why I'm not fully using Vim for all my needs as an editor is the
fact it does not display Bidirectional text (e.g: mixed Latin and Arabic or in
my case mixed Latin and Hebrew) in a Bidirectional way (even though it handles
the Hebrew and Arabic Unicode glyphs fine). This is not a big issue with most
code out there (whether Perl or otherwise), but is a major issue with Hebrew
emails, works of fiction, blog entries or comments, notes, MediaWiki entries,
etc. For that I've been using either KDE's Kate or katepart, the Mozilla
built-in text editor which has a decent support for Bidi and similar editors
like that and there are some specialised Unicode editors (and relatively
primitive by Vim's or even Kate's standards such as
http://projects.arabeyes.org/project.php?proj=Katoob or http://www.yudit.org/
).
If you don't know a language whose glyph system is written from right to left,
consider your ignorance a bliss - :-D - and furthermore some Vim and BiDi
users are happy with the fact it displays text consistently only in one
direction (either L->R or R->L).
I should also note that I've worked on some custom formats to facilitate
editing text primarily in Hebrew:
http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/projects/XML-Grammar/Fiction/
While having XML, I've also written a parser for two custom well-formed plain
text-but-XML-based formats, which I nicknamed Fiction-Text and Screenplay-
Text. The parser is a highly-Moosey spaghetti code that was used to replace
something written in the now (in)famous Parse-RecDescent which may have been
even worse. I now hope to convert it to Parser-MGC (
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Parser-MGC/ ) , but hope that its author will
document it a bit better, and this will require a rewrite and incrementally
breaking tests.
I've looked into projects providing similar functionality such as
http://www.methods.co.nz/asciidoc/ and http://celtx.com/ , but I have found
some technical or philosophical issues with them (that listing them is out of
the scope of this E-mail.).
Regards,
Shlomi Fish
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