[Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos toOctavian

John Napiorkowski jjn1056 at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 2 22:25:38 GMT 2013 

Pretty solid list, mind if I use it to blog?

regarding the thing about Catalyst and its half in and half out regarding Moose, yeah I think this is definitely a problem.  Luckily I think a lot of the more important bits that are not moose could be moved to Plack middleware (authentication and authorization stuff for example).

John


----- Original Message -----
> From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita at gmail.com>
> To: John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>; The elegant MVC web framework <catalyst at lists.scsys.co.uk>
> Cc: 
> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 8:01 AM
> Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos toOctavian
> 
> From: "John Napiorkowski" <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Octavian Rasnita <orasnita at gmail.com>
>>  To: John Napiorkowski <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>; The elegant MVC web 
> framework <catalyst at lists.scsys.co.uk>
>>  Cc:
>>  Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 4:32 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Catalyst] Re: Advent 2012 -- Catalyst in Nine Steps -- Kudos 
> toOctavian
>> 
>>  From: "John Napiorkowski" <jjn1056 at yahoo.com>
>> 
>> 
>>  Hi John and thank you again.
>> 
>>>   I'd really like to see a project to gather up, modernize and peer
>>  review all the best / informative Advent articles of years past, and we 
> could
>>  gather
>>>   it together as an open source project on github (similarly to the way 
> the
>>  Modern Perl book is done). Crafting an ebook would be
>>>   straightforward, even if we didn't have a publisher. We could 
> version
>>  it and update it from time to time as well.
>>>   We could even put it on some various ebook sites and charge a small 
> fee, to
>>  try and raise some money for the project.
>> 
>> 
>>  I mean, if we are talking about existing articles only, I think that even a
>>  beginner can read catalystframework.org and Catalyst advent articles from
>>  previous years.
>> 
> 
>>  I guess my thinking is some of the older articles that are good are also 
> pre Moose and pre PSGI. I figured modernizing them and having
>>  people review it for modern practices would make them more valuable.
> 
> Yes, this is true. "modernizing" is the key word as you said in your 
> original message, but I skipped it.
> Maybe it can be a good idea to present the modernized article, and also add a 
> link in it to the old article, to make more obvious what is changing, and 
> what's the benefit (because it wouldn't be helpful to just tell that now 
> we should use "use Moose; extends '...';" instead of just 
> "use parent '...'".
> 
> But... maybe it could be also helpful to modernize Catalyst modules on CPAN, 
> because some of them use Moose, and some of them don't and some helpers 
> generate models that use Moose and others generate models that don't use it, 
> and this may be a little confusing for newbies.
> 
> 
>>  And yes, I think you are right about the reasons of not too much 
> contribution in
>>  the last period...
>> 
>>  Maybe it would require a smaller effort to just create a page with links to 
> the
>>  recommended articles, and I think the recommended articles for a beginner 
> should
>>  be those who allow him to create a web site with little effort, not the 
> best
>>  posible which may be hard to understand by a beginner.
> 
>>  No doubt, we could easily do that!
> 
> 
> 
> OK, I visited Catalyst Advent, and I made a list of articles which I think that 
> may be helpful. Some of them need to be modernized. Here below is the list. It 
> is a kind of vote for them. The other list members can also give their vote pro 
> or against and also express their opinions or propose other articles. It could 
> be helpful if somebody can make a list of articles from main Catalyst web site 
> that might be also included (eventually modernized).
> I don't know how many of the Catalyst developers would have the time to do 
> that modernization though...
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 11 - Caching
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/11
> 
> (2007) Making your Catalyst App Cache-friendly
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/11
> 
> (2010) Painless Memcached Configuration With Catalyst & DBIx::Class
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/3
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 15 - Sessions
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/15
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 16 - Adding RSS feeds
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/16
> 
> If there are better ways to add an RSS feed, it should be modernized.
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 18 - Catalyst::View::TT
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/18
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 19 - Testing
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/19
> 
> (2006) Day 7 - Testing with an External Web Server
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/7
> 
> (2006) Day 17 - Testing Catalyst Controllers
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/17
> 
> Eventually create a single big article or a serie of articles regarding testing.
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 22 - Action Types
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/22
> 
> (2005) Catalyst Advent - Day 23 - Static::Simple
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2005/23
> 
> (2009) Delivering Static Media with Catalyst
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/16
> 
> 
> (2006) Day 1 - Getting started with Catalyst and Subversion
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/1
> 
> Maybe it can be modernized to use distributed source control systems like git 
> and mercurial.
> 
> (2006) Day 2 - Handel
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/2
> 
> (2007) A Future Look at Mango
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/12
> 
> (2006) Day 3 - The Layout of a Catalyst Application
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/3
> 
> (2006) Day 9 - Web Services with Catalyst::Action::REST
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/9
> 
> (2009) Writing REST web services with Catalyst::Controller::REST
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/19
> 
> (2006) Day 10 - The Chained Dispatch Type
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/10
> 
> (2006) Day 13 - Adding Custom Headers
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/13
> 
> (2006) Day 18 - I18N
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/18
> 
> (2010) Internationalising Catalyst, Part 1
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/9
> 
> (2010) Internationalising Catalyst, Part 2
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/20
> 
> (2006) Day 24 - The Catalyst Community
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2006/24
> 
> :-)
> 
> (2007) Application Design Techniques
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/3
> 
> (2007) Catalyst + Open Flash Chart: Fancy graphs with minimal fuss
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/4
> 
> (2008) Making sparklines with Chart::Clicker
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/3
> 
> (2012) DRAWING GRAPH CHARTS
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/19
> 
> (2007) Adding Authentication to your Catalyst App
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/5
> 
> (2007) Inline Authentication Without Redirection
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/6
> 
> (2008) Progressive Authentication with Catalyst (Using OpenID)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/19
> 
> (2011) Login, Authorization and User Administration
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/15
> 
> (2007) local::lib and Catalyst
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/8
> 
> (2007) Day 13 - $c->uri_for fun and profit
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/13
> 
> (2007) Catalyst Configuration: A to Z
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/15
> 
> (2008) Day 10. Dealing with Config::General's inability to provide single 
> item arrays.
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/10
> 
> (2009) Configuration layouts
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/11
> 
> (2007) Advanced Search in web DBIx::Class based applications (with tags, full 
> text search and searching by location)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/16
> 
> (2007) HTML::FormFu - Handles forms, so you don't have to
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/20
> 
> (2007) DBIx::Class::Tutorial::Part1
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/22
> 
> (2007) Using plain classes as Catalyst models
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2007/24
> 
> (2008) Catalyst and nginx
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/2
> 
> (2008) Making Catalyst Sites Shine with Varnish
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/14
> 
> (2008) Day 8. Some notes on ACCEPT_CONTEXT, with and without antlers.
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/8
> 
> (2008) Custom URL styles with CatalystX::CRUD
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/12
> 
> (2011) Easy CRUD for your Catalyst App
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/11
> 
> (2008) Day 16. Catalyst 5.80
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/16
> 
> (2008) WrapCGI: CGI.pm in your Catalyst app.
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2008/18
> 
> (2009) Running CGI Scripts Under Catalyst
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/6
> 
> (2009) Loadable Traits for Catalyst Components
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/10
> 
> (2009) How DBIx::Class::ResultSet::WithMetaData can help keep your controllers 
> clean
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/12
> 
> (2009) Keeping Your Model Reusable
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/18
> 
> (2011) Get fat this Christmas
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/3
> 
> (2009) A Tour of DBIx::Class::Helpers
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/20
> 
> (2009) An HTTP API in 5 minutes
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/21
> 
> (2009) An AJAX CRUD Interface with Catalyst and jQuery
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/22
> 
> (2010) Getting Started with Catalyst and jQuery (and jQuery UI)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/13
> 
> (2009) Plack - A Fantastic Layer To Make Your App Deployment Easier
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2009/23
> 
> (2010) Creating an Easy to Manage Search Engine with Catalyst and ElasticSearch
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/2
> 
> (2010) Adding Simple Excel Support
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/6
> 
> (2010) Input Verification with Data::Manager
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/10
> 
> (2010) Creating reusable actions with Moose::Role - an example
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/22
> 
> (2010) Moose::Role, Moose::Util and DBIx::Class based Models (multiaction 
> revisited)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/23
> 
> (2011) The ControllerRole ChainAction Massacre (Part 1)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/10
> 
> (2011) The ControllerRole ChainAction Massacre (Part 2)
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/17
> 
> (2012) Action Roles for cleaner, less stashy Catalyst Actions
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/16
> 
> (2010) Access the Twitter API through Catalyst
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/15
> 
> (2010) Integrating Facebook into your Catalyst application
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2010/24
> 
> (2011) 2011 Reflections - 5.90 and beyond.
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/1
> 
> The modules discussed in that article can be helpful to be presented...
> 
> (2011) Checking for leaks in MyApp.
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/2
> 
> (2011) Keep your libraries organized
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/4
> 
> (2011) Deploy Catalyst Applications with Starman and Apache
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/16
> 
> (2011) A Git Tutorial
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2011/22
> 
> (2012) Catalyst in 9 steps
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/7
> 
> ...and the other 8 articles of this serie.
> 
> (2012) Dynamic forms with HTML::FormFu
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/17
> 
> (2012) SCALING IMAGES ON DEMAND
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/20
> 
> (2012) HTML::FormHandler & jQuery Validator
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/23
> 
> (2012) Combining assets
> http://www.catalystframework.org/calendar/2012/25
> 
> Octavian
>

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