[Dbix-class] find redux

[Zbigniew Lukasiak]

On Feb 2, 2008 8:27 AM, Matt S Trout <dbix-class at trout.me.uk> wrote:
>
> On Sat, Feb 02, 2008 at 07:14:09AM +0100, Zbigniew Lukasiak wrote:
> > Hi Matt,
> >
> > Will I hear a 'thank you' from you?  I mean I've spotted the bug, sent
> > test cases, analyzed the code and tried to explain how it happened
> > (perhaps that was not a good explanation - but a gifted programmer as
> > you should be capable of analyzing the code directly without my help),
> > and your answer was insults, false accusation and a threat to ban me
> > from this list.  Is that encouraging other potential contributors?  Is
> > that even sane?  And this is not the first time that you funnel your
> > frustration at me because my remarks require some intellectual effort.
> > How dare I?  How a mere luser dare to have remarks that require
> > intellectual effort from a code god like you?
>
> You spotted a bug and took a week of me poking you to provide a comprehensible
> explanation, in the meantime misreading the code and posting incorrect
> comments, posting 2 pages of "oh my god the sky is falling don't use half of
> DBIC"

Lets not use too much rethoric.  I've checked the methods affected and
listed them.  I've also described the circumstances when the problem
can happen.

> when it looked like you didn't get your way, were repeatedly utterly
> confusing ("my remarks require some intellectual effort" is a cute euphamism
> for "I utterly failed to communicate my meaning with any useful defree of
> clarity" but it's still a euphamism) and finally when I tried to get you on
> track refused twice to actually work within the framework set up so we could
> have a useful discussion.
>
> In fact, you didn't start being practically helpful until the threat to
> temporarily revoke your posting rights (which is not "banning you" by any
> means), at which point three emails later -I- finally managed a one-paragraph
> summary that you could have posted in the first place and avoided all the
> wasted time.
>
> Trying to get you to express your ideas clearly so we can actually have
> a discussion around them is not "funneling my frustration" at you. It's
> trying to get a useful technical discussion going so your efforts lead to
> improvement in the project rather than going to waste.
>
> I'm sorry you've taken it so personally but when you ignore polite requests
> and do respond to insults and threats, my choices are to insult and threaten
> you or to exclude you from the discussion - and I'm trying to avoid that
> last resort because your contributions have proved valuable.
>
> Thank you for all your effort on this, but -please- try and be more concise
> and precise next time round - a little more english composition effort on
> your part would have avoided all of this and we'd already be putting a dev
> release out with the fruit of your efforts in it :)
>

:)

Cheers,
Zbigniew