[Dbix-class] The email I didn't want to write.

Hartmaier Alexander alexander.hartmaier at t-systems.at
Mon Nov 7 09:24:20 GMT 2016


Can everybody please stop bashing ribasushi and work on a solution to
get the DBIC development process going again?!

Peter is also 'only' a human being and if his interpersonal skills would
be higher his technical expertise might not be as good as it is because
no one can shine everywhere.

Thanks!


On 2016-11-03 18:34, Christian Walde wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2016 11:50:24 +0100, Peter Rabbitson
> <rabbit+dbic at rabbit.us> wrote:
>
>> Citation needed. Please provide an example where I have been abusive
>> or even slightly unprofessional in a bugreport. Issue trackers are
>> generally always part of the public record, so it shouldn't be a
>> problem to back up what was said above.
>
> I didn't want to bother, but rereading riba's arrogance and deceit
> combined with your past actions make me angry enough to bother.
>
> He'll probably enjoy that i write this, but well, if he does, he's
> free to enjoy it while he can.
>
> Meanwhile i think it's only fair that his userbase knows what his
> principles really *mean*.
>
> The following did not have him act in an RT queue, but since his
> actions were in direct response and aimed towards affecting a ticket i
> filed, it is fair to bring up.
>
> He did abuse me on IRC with the goal to get me to give up on the ticket.
>
> He plainly said this to me and tried to justify it as being his duty
> as an engineer.
>
> I did indeed give up on a ticket despite still considering it valid
> and in need of action due to him.
>
> I had forgotten about it for months and not done anything about it at
> all. A reasonable person should think that would be enough for him to
> cross it off as done and leave things be.
>
> However for some insane reason he thought it was appropiate to
> approach me again, a YEAR after i had originally filed the ticket, and
> tell me these things:
>
> [...]
> 16-01-08 at 23:11:43 (ribasushi) I re-read the log in p5p several times
> in the past week
> [...]
> 16-01-08 at 23:12:21 (ribasushi) if you agree for me to publish it
> unmodified (at most with slight reorder to compensate for IRC lag)
> 16-01-08 at 23:12:33 (ribasushi) I will publicly own to say in no
> uncertain terms that I went *EASY* on you
> 16-01-08 at 23:12:35 (ribasushi) and that I regret it
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:09 (Mithaldu) regret going easy, or having done it in
> the first place instead of looking at it on technical merits?
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:22 (ribasushi) I looked at the technical merits
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:25 (Mithaldu) also, publish whatever you liked
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:33 (ribasushi) and I didn't shut it down quickly enough
> nor forcefully enough
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:39 (Mithaldu) jesus fuck
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:43 (ribasushi) I wasn't using "radical candor" correctly
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:46 (Mithaldu) you are an abbhorrent piece of shit
> 16-01-08 at 23:13:53 (ribasushi) and this is something I do regret
> [...]
>
> He might possibly argue that this was him being professional,
> delivering a final kick to the liver to ensure it sticks.
>
> However in no possible conceivable way does this deserve ANY respite
> from receiving the label "abusive".
>
> I am also not the only person to be treated like that. He said the
> following about his treatment of another developer in various venues,
> including a github queue:
>
> 15-05-11 at 14:00:22 (ribasushi) at this point it is *my engineering
> duty* to drive him away from perl
>
> Again, he probably thinks it is professional to do that, but trying to
> claim here that it is not abuse is a lie, given he has stated outright
> that he was abusing said dev with that particular goal.
>



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