[Dbix-class] IMPORTANT: A discussion of DBIC governance and future development

Pedro Melo melo at simplicidade.org
Tue Oct 4 10:21:36 GMT 2016


Hi,

On 4/10/16 1:15 AM, "Ashley Pond V" <apv at sedition.com> wrote:

>RIBASUSHI has given this codebase a tremendous amount of care,
>improvement, and deft effort. I am a user and evangelist of DBIC since
>it was the first fork of CDBI that started to solve so many problems.
>Peter has solved many problems since.
>
>My view: MST must be respected but I personally defer to RIBASUSHI and
>his judgement. I say, what he says, goes. He has earned the benefit of
>the doubt. At least until it can be clearly demonstrated the approach
>is harming the code base should that ever become the case.

+1, I could not have written this better.

Bye,

>
>­Ashley
>
>On Mon, Oct 3, 2016 at 6:09 PM, Darren Duncan <darren at darrenduncan.net>
>wrote:
>> Peter,
>>
>> Regardless of what else happens, I very much would look forward to you
>> finishing up and shipping all the code changes you spent the last year
>> working on.  It sounds like you're almost done them, and I don't want
>>all
>> that effort to go to waste.
>>
>> I trust you that this work would provide an island of stability of
>>sorts,
>> and a version that people can continue to use for the extended term
>>whether
>> others choose to just maintain that or choose to make major changes of
>>their
>> own, your stable version would still be there as a useful legacy.
>>
>> Given that your remaining time is limited, I request that you don't
>>halt on
>> the code until the 8th as mentioned, unless you need to rest anyway,
>>and use
>> the time you have to try and finish what you started and leave a better
>> legacy.
>>
>> Thank you for all your effort over the last years.
>>
>> -- Darren Duncan
>>
>>
>> On 2016-10-03 2:32 PM, Peter Rabbitson wrote:
>>>
>>> On 10/03/2016 10:37 PM, David Golden wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <snip>
>>>>
>>>> In the ensuing discussion, Peter disclosed additional details about
>>>>his
>>>> plans for the future of DBIC
>>>
>>>
>>> Given the discussion generated way more interest than I anticipated, at
>>> this
>>> point I am pausing all activity ( both code and administrative changes
>>>),
>>> until
>>> at least the 8th of October. I want to give ample time for all
>>>interested
>>> parties to state their thoughts.
>>>
>>>  From my side, in order to highlight the main "point of contention" if
>>>you
>>> will,
>>> I am pulling together several pieces from the aforementioned threads:
>>>
>>>> How much more concerning, then, to discover in the last few days
>>>> that you have seen your DBIC-related activities since December as
>>>> effectively winding up the project, rather than preparing to leave
>>>> it to others.
>>>> ...
>>>> I know a bunch of the the pending changes are not ready to merge (or
>>>> "sub-par" if you will); this is because I haven't had the motivation
>>>>to
>>>> put more work into them
>>>> ...
>>>> I suspect if we managed to get all of the branches
>>>> people had planned that were delayed because riba's response to the
>>>> proposed
>>>> features was "yes, but please wait for me to finish X first" done then
>>>> that
>>>> work in itself might be a major release's worth.
>>>> ...
>>>> While I get that its (n.b. DBIC) depended on a fair bit, I don't think
>>>> that
>>>> means being  *perfect* to the exclusion of all experimentation. I
>>>>don't
>>>> think
>>>> I've come across other bits of CPAN, apart from maybe the ones in
>>>>core,
>>>> that
>>>> attempt  to be as rigorous in their perfection. Really, if people
>>>> upgrade,
>>>> and  encounter an issue .. they can either downgrade and wait, or
>>>>pitch
>>>> in
>>>> and  help (or pay someone to).. this is open source after all.
>>>
>>>
>>> While the project does not have a bright future under my (now likely
>>>moot)
>>> plan,
>>> the approach indicated above is, in my opinion, the worst possible
>>> direction,
>>> one I worked really hard to save this codebase from.
>>>
>>> Nevertheless, if nobody else finds this problematic: I will step aside
>>>and
>>> let
>>> an eager community, inadvertently suppressed all these years, steer
>>>this
>>> project
>>> further.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> RIBASUSHI
>>
>>
>>
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