[epo-core] LPW talk, extended core, grants, getting off our arses

[Mark Keating]

++ to this.

In regards to the working groups, I will need regular reports/ 
summaries - something written of their activities that I can enter  
into the Company Diary (yes we do have one), to satisfy legal status  
(Company Rules - see the Articles) - this need not be long winded, a  
couple of short lines of explanation, if I think it needs to be made  
clearer I will ask.

We will also need to vote on the formation of working groups, and I  
think members of working groups will have to be Ordinary Members (I  
don't think we can offer it to special as we are effectively letting  
these people have status in the organisation, possibly even voting  
rights as to what direction we pursue and Special Members are not  
offered that) of the organisation, as they would be acting as EPO  
officers and our rules do not allow for non members to do that  
(otherwise under company law they would have to be listed as Employees!)

I think we need to put a donations page on the website to begin with,  
and we need to find companies willing to donate as well (this is going  
to be a hard sell in the current climate).

Mark

On 26 Nov 2008, at 06:33, Mike Whitaker wrote:

> Yes, I'm still drafting the talk (sorry, mdk :))....
>
> In general, the talk outline is about half rant on where Perl is  
> (see previous emails from me and others on that score) and about  
> half 'what are we proposing to do about it'.
>
> To this end, I would really like to be able to make some positive  
> announcements of things EPO are actively doing, and quite frankly, I  
> think it's time we did, too :)
>
> I propose the following:
>
> 1) We announce the formation of (and actively get off our butts and  
> form) a working group dedicated to working on the EP Extended Core,  
> Task::Kensho, the P5EE, whatever the frod we decide to call it.  
> (Personally, I'd go for the "Enlightened Perl Extended Core" as a  
> working name.) Its brief would be the following
>   a) to identify the areas of functionality an extended core needs  
> to cover
>   b) to draw up a set of recommended extended core modules which  
> cover the tasks required for
> modern enterprise use of Perl
>   c) to agree on a set of minimal standards for release process,  
> documentation and (where possible) API for those modules
>   d) to liaise with the authors of those modules regarding their  
> inclusion in the extended core
>   e) to identify places where those modules fall short of the core  
> standards, and then
>       i) to advise the EP funding working group on possible fundable  
> projects to rectify these
>       ii) to define projects for GSoC 09 to rectify these
>   d) to liaise with major Linux/Windows etc distributions (RH,  
> Debian, Ubuntu, ActiveState, Strawberry Perl) to get the extended  
> core packaged in an appropriate manner
>   g) to coordinate releases of the extended core
>   h) (perhaps) to find a better name for the extended core
>
> As for people to be IN said working group. I'd suggest Chris Prather  
> and me for an obvious two, and perhaps Adam Kennedy if he's willing?  
> as well as a couple more folks?
>
> 2) We announce if possible at LEAST one funded project. I believe we  
> currently have two? requests in, an d about £1100 in the bank? I  
> dunno if this is enough. If we can't do this, we at least announce  
> we've formed a grants working group (volunteers, please!) and that  
> we have projects under review
>
> 3) We ask for more money :) Suggestions as to how we do this welcome.
>
> All of these need to get announced everywhere we can on LPW day  
> (including Perl Buzz, use Perl, etc...)
> --
> Mike Whitaker - mike at altrion.org
>
>
>
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